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Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? #814295
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Okay, I've read a lot here lately regarding timing lights being inaccurate when working with an MSD ignition.

I run an MSD Digital 6 plus ignition, and have a simple Actron inductive timing light. Am I getting an accurate reading?


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Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: StealthWedge67] #814296
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Okay, I've read a lot here lately regarding timing lights being inaccurate when working with an MSD ignition.

I run an MSD Digital 6 plus ignition, and have a simple Actron inductive timing light. Am I getting an accurate reading?




Well, I'm certainly no 'expert' on the subject, but it would seem "logical" that since the pulse coming from the MSD module to the number 1 plug would be the same "pulse" you would get from a standard coil, the timing light wouldn't "know" the difference.

I had a 64 Fury some years ago which had the Chrysler elect ign on it and had no problem setting the timing....I don't know why that would be any different than the MSD, as far as the use of a timing light.

Then again, like I said, I surely ain't no 'expert'. Good luck.

Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: StealthWedge67] #814297
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Okay, I've read a lot here lately regarding timing lights being inaccurate when working with an MSD ignition.

I run an MSD Digital 6 plus ignition, and have a simple Actron inductive timing light. Am I getting an accurate reading?




I've heard of problems when useing "dial back" timing lights, i too am no exspert on this, but you should be fine useing a stardard type inductive timing light.


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Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: joedust451] #814298
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I haven't had any problems using an old-school inductive timing light on either of my "MSD-6 cars".

Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: topside] #814299
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The MSD can affect lights.It has multiple sparks at idle.Why do you think its called MSD.Multi spark dischare compared to stock ignition.My old Craftsman and my SnapOn lights work with mine.That and once you get over I believ 3K it fires like a normal ignition.Rocky


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Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: therocks] #814300
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I've never had any issues with a timing light, but MSD very specifically states in the instructions to never use a volt/ohm meter or test light on the terminals at the coil.


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Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: slantzilla] #814301
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yes I've also heard that MSD wreaks havoc on dial back readings but I'm not aware that if your running MSD that you then need to buy a special light so I'd say your good w your current non dialback one


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Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: StealthWedge67] #814302
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The problems begin with the multiple sparks from the MSD. The digital 6, 7 and the DIS can be the worst. Ironically old timing lights seem to work because they just aren't fast enough to see the extra pulses. Some newer dial-back lights can see the extra pulses and get confused. The MSD timing lights are specifically designed to handle this.

But if you get a stable timing reading with the light you have, you're OK as-is. As you pick up in RPM you may start to see some jittering and some dial-backs just flat stop flashing.

If you get a good flash, it's not an accuracy issue. If you decide to buy a new timing light, make sure the specs say it can handle DIS ignition.

Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: Mopar_Rich] #814303
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The MSD timing lights are specifically designed to handle this.


Rich good info, now are MSD's lights dial back or regular?


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Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: RapidRobert] #814304
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Regular only. I guess they assume that a performance engine would use a fully degreed balancer, and errors can occur with the dial-back electronics. It's always better to use a regular timing light and a good fully degreed balancer.

Re: Timing light vs. MSD ignition. ???? [Re: Mopar_Rich] #814305
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It's always better to use a regular timing light and a good fully degreed balancer.


& I find exact TDC w the tool then do the simple math (.0632683" is 1 degree) and use my 0-1" and 2-3" mikes to measure 2 strips of white paper & use them to make the 2 marks that are pretty much all I need (initial/total) on the dampener & then I know I'm then dead on but w that being said I absolutely love playing w my dialback (& I dont have MSD )


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