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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Adrielp] #804372
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Peak power is around 6700 rpm with the 266/272 cam.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Adrielp] #804373
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Crane recommended this 280/286 cam with .452 lobe lift. It is quite a bit larger than my existing 266/272 cam so we'll see what happens with the power curve.

I'm still waiting for a couple of parts to show up and then I'll get the engine back on the dyno for some more testing.

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: WheelsUp73] #804374
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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Cab_Burge] #804375
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It'll be intersting to see the cam comparison, but for it to be accurate you'd have to run it with the same intake you ran the last one with first, not the Wilson-ized one, is that right?

I would think/predict that the flow limitations of the stock height/short turn compromised EZ exhaust port are going to show up sooner or later...the bigger cam will certainly raise the torque peak RPM but the HP curve is likely not going to keep rising quite as dramatically/proportionally.

It would be great and very much appreciated (especially for us analytical 'cause and effect' type tech junkies/tuner types) to see the dyno charts on these pulls if possible, Andy!! Thanks in advance!!

BTW, I was thinking about buying that same MJ grind for my 517, let me know if you want to sell it! Also, how much did Wilson charge for all that work?

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Streetwize] #804376
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I'd be willing to sell that Jones cam, shoot me a PM. It was a really stout cam with my setup.

Wilson charges about $1100 for their competition port when welding is required.

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PM sent!!

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804378
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I had BLP build me a 2 circuit 1250 carb. It should work well with the Wilson ported intake.

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804379
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If you look close you can see two jets that BLP puts in the top of the carb near the carb stud. Those are for idle air. It is easier to change jets up there than to flip the carb over and drill the throttle plates. Clever idea that makes an engine easier to tune.

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Sure would have been nice when I was tuning a tunnelram. I think I only had to pull the carbs three times!


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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804381
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New dry sump pan showed up the other day. I had Charlie build me a big pan. We'll see if the exra volume helps to make some power. This pan is really big. It has a 4 inch kickout and a deep belly section.

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804382
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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: 70blackfish] #804383
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VERY impressive,Andy! Wish my little ole' 440 could break ANYONE'S dyno! Can't wait to get it back on Jake's dyno this Spring/Summer...after freshening up the motor,and bolting up the MCH cnc'd Eddy's...with additional compression..10:1-11:1!

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804384
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Putting the pan on the engine shows how large it is.

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804385
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Window side.

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804386
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New pistons are here so now I have everything necessary to redo the shortblock. These pistons push the compression up to a little more than 15:1

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804387
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I haven't worked on this project for awhile now. I did get a ModMan intake from Indy so I'll probably try that next time we go to the dyno. That might be interesting.

I loaned my Wilson ported Super Victor to the guys at Hughes Engines so they could do some dyno testing. I'm looking forward to how those tests go. Once the intake comes back I'll get this 514 back on the dyno. We'll see if the higher compression, Crane cam and the bigger oil pan make any difference.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804388
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New dry sump pan showed up the other day. I had Charlie build me a big pan. We'll see if the exra volume helps to make some power. This pan is really big. It has a 4 inch kickout and a deep belly section.




Is the big pan going on right away, and will you swap pans at some point to see what difference it makes?


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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Performance Only] #804389
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AndyF,What percentage of load are you using on your dyno pulls?

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: MRMOPAR622] #804390
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Hi Andy, I took the liberty of plugging in the numbers on the new combo, I use engine analyzer pro and with 15:1 compression, the ez heads, 7.1 rods, new cam, ported intake and 1200 cfm carb, the 514 made 918hp at 6600rpm and 802ftlb at 5200.

I ran the water temp at 140f

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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Performance Only] #804391
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New dry sump pan showed up the other day. I had Charlie build me a big pan. We'll see if the exra volume helps to make some power. This pan is really big. It has a 4 inch kickout and a deep belly section.




Is the big pan going on right away, and will you swap pans at some point to see what difference it makes?




That would be a fun test to run but I don't have the time these days to do that type of testing. I'll be lucky to even get some dyno pulls on the new engine combo much less do any back to back testing.

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