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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: 65pacecar] #782718 08/25/10 02:51 PM 08/25/10 02:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,970 Puttin' on the foil in Charles... not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator
not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,970 Puttin' on the foil in Charles...	What an odd find that car appears to be. /6 sedan with discs and an 8.75 rear? Black with blue interior? Even cooler. What an unusual grocery getter. Earning every penny of that moderator paycheck. DBAP

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: 340wedge] #782719 08/25/10 03:23 PM 08/25/10 03:23 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: Looking at these pictures made me curious. I see alot of bare spots under the engine on the oil pan and block. How were these engines painted by the factory? Long blocks? Fully assembled? Would the oil pan be painted on or off the engine? Hi Lou, The engines were painted as an assembly and were not covered very well in the hard to reach areas. Steve Been painted the engine with the exact same characteristics as the original example that we documented. We left the areas sparsely covered just like the original engine paint. He even put the runs in the paint (where they originally existed) but did not make them look manipulated or purposefully placed!

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: anlauto] #782720 08/25/10 03:26 PM 08/25/10 03:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: Were these springs painted from the factory Dave? These springs were originally painted black by the Manufacturer/Factory. If anyone would like to see the "before" pictures for any of these components I will be happy to post them. Thanks!

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782721 08/25/10 04:02 PM 08/25/10 04:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,386 White Plains, NY VCODE top fuel
VCODE top fuel Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,386 White Plains, NY	Quote: Quote: Looking at these pictures made me curious. I see alot of bare spots under the engine on the oil pan and block. How were these engines painted by the factory? Long blocks? Fully assembled? Would the oil pan be painted on or off the engine? Hi Lou, The engines were painted as an assembly and were not covered very well in the hard to reach areas. Steve Been painted the engine with the exact same characteristics as the original example that we documented. We left the areas sparsely covered just like the original engine paint. He even put the runs in the paint (where they originally existed) but did not make them look manipulated or purposefully placed! My 440 engine has little or no paint on the bottom of the oil pan. Painter was to lazy to bend down Bob Mom & Dad let me buy a brand new 70 Challenger R/T 440 Six-Pack Super Trac Pack when I was 17 (Robert what is a 440 Six-Pack)

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782722 08/25/10 04:04 PM 08/25/10 04:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,970 Puttin' on the foil in Charles... not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator
not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,970 Puttin' on the foil in Charles...	Dave, did the unusual options/colors influence your decision to choose this particular car? Earning every penny of that moderator paycheck. DBAP

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: not_a_charger] #782723 08/25/10 04:24 PM 08/25/10 04:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Hi Mike! I really did not have anything in mind when the idea for this project started. I wanted to find a very low mileage Chrysler vehicle that still had all of its original components AND could be made to look new again. (The original carpet was a MUST for being able to reuse and restore.) After considering a few different vehicles across the Country, Dave Stuart reminded me of a Car that we saw at Rich Heidbreder's place. I didn't remember ever seeing the car because I was so focused on documenting Challenger radiator hoses at the time. When we went back to look at it I knew it was the Perfect candidate for what we wanted to accomplish. The exterior was the color of my Cuda and the interior was almost the same as my Challenger. When I saw the Factory options for front disc brakes, rear window defogger and 3:23 posi rear axle, I was completely sold! This car and the unique options/colors is RARER than Both my Hemicuda AND Challenger combined! Besides those statistics how many OE Gold-Four Door-Slant Six Valiants exist in the Chrysler World today?

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782724 08/25/10 04:30 PM 08/25/10 04:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,970 Puttin' on the foil in Charles... not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator
not_a_charger Mr. Big Shot Moparts Moderator Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,970 Puttin' on the foil in Charles...	The car is awesome. I'd love to find out what the original owner's thoughts were, because that car HAD to be ordered that way, no? I can't imagine a car optioned like that being given to a dealer unless it was ordered. Odd that it has those options and no AC, too. Earning every penny of that moderator paycheck. DBAP

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782725 08/25/10 04:33 PM 08/25/10 04:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,854 Georgetown Ontario Canada anlauto I Live Here
anlauto I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,854 Georgetown Ontario Canada	Quote: Quote: Were these springs painted from the factory Dave? These springs were originally painted black by the Manufacturer/Factory. If anyone would like to see the "before" pictures for any of these components I will be happy to post them. Thanks! That's what I'm thinking...There are so many little weird things about this A Body that you don't usually find on an E or B Body...amazing *CHECK OUT MY NEW WEB SITE !*

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: anlauto] #782726 08/25/10 05:07 PM 08/25/10 05:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado A a12superbee master
a12superbee master A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado	I'm really looking forward to a book I can hold in my hands. Flipping pages back and forth on the internets, it's too easy to lose focus of the details. What proportion of components were stripped and then redone compared to components that were cleaned and detailed? I can't afford this. mark

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: a12superbee] #782727 08/25/10 07:04 PM 08/25/10 07:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: What proportion of components were stripped and then redone compared to components that were cleaned and detailed? We originally thought that we would be way ahead by starting with a low mileage "clean" original car. Were we ever mistaken! Every part had to be restored and reworked in order to look new again. I spoke with Tom Barcroft and he will be getting some additional pictures that were taken at the show. If there are any details that anyone would like to see let us know and we will post them. Between the (documentation) before and after photos, we have enough information to fill ten books.

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782728 08/25/10 07:47 PM 08/25/10 07:47 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,371 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,371 Iowa	I'd be interested to see a before and after of the fuel filler tube. Everyone says that the lead dip process isn't done anymore. Did you find an NOS filler tube or were you able to correctly restore the origonal? If it's the origonal, can you share your process for restoring it? Thanks

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: burdar] #782729 08/25/10 08:07 PM 08/25/10 08:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 243 St. Louis, MO DodgeMaterial enthusiast
DodgeMaterial enthusiast Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 243 St. Louis, MO	Quote: I'd be interested to see a before and after of the fuel filler tube. Everyone says that the lead dip process isn't done anymore. Did you find an NOS filler tube or were you able to correctly restore the origonal? If it's the origonal, can you share your process for restoring it? Thanks The neck was in pretty good shape - but did have some discoloration and was dull. We used lacquer thinner, then mother's polish, and then thinner again. Dave Walden made the new gasket at the quarter panel - with the correct foam and correct adhesive. Hope this helps - Dave DodgeMaterial - Dave JS29U0B - FK5 - 440-4 Auto WS23V0A - EB5 - 440-6 Auto

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782730 08/26/10 01:10 AM 08/26/10 01:10 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,763 Myrtle Beach, SC formerly the ... 340wedge master
340wedge master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,763 Myrtle Beach, SC formerly the ...	Thanks Dave, Looks so good! you guys have way more energy than I do! LOL, that book would be great if you make it, i'm in! Looking at these pictures made me curious. I see alot of bare spots under the engine on the oil pan and block. How were these engines painted by the factory? Long blocks? Fully assembled? Would the oil pan be painted on or off the engine? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Lou, The engines were painted as an assembly and were not covered very well in the hard to reach areas. Steve Been painted the engine with the exact same characteristics as the original example that we documented. We left the areas sparsely covered just like the original engine paint. He even put the runs in the paint (where they originally existed) but did not make them look manipulated or purposefully placed! 1971 Sassy Grass Green Duster 340 2006 Charger Daytona GoMango

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: 340wedge] #782731 08/26/10 04:52 AM 08/26/10 04:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 10,153 A Red State SNK-EYZ I Live Here
SNK-EYZ I Live Here Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 10,153 A Red State	Here are a few pics I took on Sunday when they were getting ready to do the awards run. Links to the larger versions. Valiant pic 1 Valiant pic 2 Valiant pic 3 Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: SNK-EYZ] #782732 08/26/10 08:04 AM 08/26/10 08:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,854 Georgetown Ontario Canada anlauto I Live Here
anlauto I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,854 Georgetown Ontario Canada	Having never met Dave, is that him standing next to the car dressed in white? *CHECK OUT MY NEW WEB SITE !*

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: anlauto] #782733 08/26/10 10:14 AM 08/26/10 10:14 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,371 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,371 Iowa	No

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: Morty426] #782734 08/26/10 10:22 AM 08/26/10 10:22 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida C cataclysm80 master
cataclysm80 master C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida	Quote: Dave - Just tell me when these references will be available. I will gladly part with my money. Please let us know when they are available! Tav

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: anlauto] #782735 08/26/10 12:04 PM 08/26/10 12:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: Having never met Dave, is that him standing next to the car dressed in white? That would be Mr. Steve Been in that photo Alan.....pleasure to meet you!

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: 65pacecar] #782736 08/26/10 12:34 PM 08/26/10 12:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,854 Georgetown Ontario Canada anlauto I Live Here
anlauto I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,854 Georgetown Ontario Canada	Pleasure is all mine Dave 6159989-disney2010020.jpg (559 downloads) *CHECK OUT MY NEW WEB SITE !*

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782737 08/26/10 01:10 PM 08/26/10 01:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,082 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,082 U.S.S.A.	Quote: You look like Al Gore on 'roids , which would explain your pent up rage ...

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