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Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? #76598
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Is there a special tool for installing heater hose and by-pass hose nipples into intake manifolds?

Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: In_The_Pink] #76599
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no, just use a correctly sized piece of steel.


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Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: RapidRobert] #76600
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Or a heavy (say 1") washer turned by a screwdriver or Crescent wrench.

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Or a heavy (say 1") washer turned by a screwdriver or Crescent wrench.


better yet


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Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: RapidRobert] #76602
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Maybe I should re-phrase my question...

When engines were originally assembled, what was used to tighten the heater and by-pass hose nipples?

Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: In_The_Pink] #76603
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Maybe I should re-phrase my question...

When engines were originally assembled, what was used to tighten the heater and by-pass hose nipples?




I'd like to know too!!!

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I'm guessing but OE installs were probably a special socket designed with keys inside it to align with the slots

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How about a drag link socket?


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Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: In_The_Pink] #76606
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A hose nipple tool is easy to make, just take a deep nut and grind/file the face to leave two blades that fit the slot in the nipple and then thread a bolt shank into it to act as a pilot.

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I'm guessing but OE installs were probably a special socket designed with keys inside it to align with the slots




This is what I was thinking, but was there never a special service tool (or whatever Mopar called their specific tools) that they used at dealerships back in the day? Surely they didn't use Vice-Grip(tm) pliers evry time.

Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: In_The_Pink] #76608
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I'm guessing but OE installs were probably a special socket designed with keys inside it to align with the slots




This is what I was thinking, but was there never a special service tool (or whatever Mopar called their specific tools) that they used at dealerships back in the day? Surely they didn't use Vice-Grip(tm) pliers evry time.




ahhh , why wouldn't they ??

what engine are you looking for this non existent tool for ?

Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: JohnRR] #76609
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I'm guessing but OE installs were probably a special socket designed with keys inside it to align with the slots




This is what I was thinking, but was there never a special service tool (or whatever Mopar called their specific tools) that they used at dealerships back in the day? Surely they didn't use Vice-Grip(tm) pliers evry time.




ahhh , why wouldn't they ??

what engine are you looking for this non existent tool for ?




Um, because they are professional mechanics.

Just your standard Small Block LA engine, but the application isn't important really.

You can use a screwdriver and hammer to remove an ignition switch bezel, but we all know there's a correct tool designed for removeing the bezel. I just want to know if there is such a tool for installing and removing heater hose nipples. Maybe it doesn't exist, I dunno...that's why I'm asking.

Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: In_The_Pink] #76610
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Um, because they are professional mechanics.






now thats some funny stuff right there

Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: JohnRR] #76611
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Yup all the Chrysler mechanics back then had every tool in the manuals and never skipped a step or used a homemade tool.


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Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: moparpollack] #76612
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Back to the question, was there ever a master list of Special Service tools?

Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: In_The_Pink] #76613
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Back to the question, was there ever a master list of Special Service tools?




Miller Special Tools manufactures Chrysler Corporation service tools.
I have quite a few of their catalogs going back to the mid 70's.
Never have seen anything in any of the catalogs for a "special tool" used on the hose fitting nipples.


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Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: In_The_Pink] #76614
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Back to the question, was there ever a master list of Special Service tools?




are you unable to finish assembling your engine without the tool or is this for your doctorite in auto technology ???

... it was a joke son ...

i just looked thru my 69 shop manual , there is not torque spec , no tool listed and not even a procedure to do what you are asking about .

maybe you should have asked this question in the over restored section ???


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Back to the question, was there ever a master list of Special Service tools?




Miller Special Tools manufactures Chrysler Corporation service tools.
I have quite a few of their catalogs going back to the mid 70's.
Never have seen anything in any of the catalogs for a "special tool" used on the hose fitting nipples.




Thanks.

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Pipe wrench?

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I make hose nipple install tools for customers from time to time from tough 316 stainless steel. They include all 3 hose sizes including the small block bypass hose. This is the best way to install them for sure.

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I believe I used a dull wood chisel (like a screwdriver) and cresent wrench on mine and it worked just fine.

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You can get a set of these at Home Depot. Look in the plumbing tools.

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those are nice. are they really brass, or are they plated ? I have some of those for larger size pipe[1"-2"].

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Is there a special tool for installing heater hose and by-pass hose nipples into intake manifolds?



Are we overthinking this a tad too much?

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They're chrome plated steel. The early morning sunrise is reflecting on them making them appear to be brass. Very useful when pulling out frozen/galled old nipples.

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Nice! How much?

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I bought the set 8 years ago for $18. Have gotten plenty of use out of them.

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Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: Pynzo] #76626
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They're chrome plated steel. The early morning sunrise is reflecting on them making them appear to be brass. Very useful when pulling out frozen/galled old nipples.




Boy..........the last part of that post could sure take this thread off in the ditch .

I always just used a small piece of steel, never thought about a tool.

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Haha! I just reread that hope the censors understand what I meant. Morning Coffee hasn't kicked in yet!

Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: Pynzo] #76628
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The only problem with the internal pipe wrench is it grabs the inside and scratches and gouges the gavanizing off the inside of the nipple which in time will cause it to rust, This is why I several mopar engine builders had me make them.

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Re: Heater & By-Pass Hose Nipples- Tool for Installing? [Re: johnscudashop] #76629
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I know you make some high quality tools, i bought a torsion bar tool from you and plan on getting your antenna nut and mirror nut tools also. Are these nipple tools availble seperately or just by the set? I didn't see them listed on your Mopar page.

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The only problem with the internal pipe wrench is it grabs the inside and scratches and gouges the gavanizing off the inside of the nipple which in time will cause it to rust, This is why I several mopar engine builders had me make them.




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Do these nipples rust more than the rest of the sealed coolant system?

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Jeez guys. A small piece of sheet metal, of the correct thickness, with vice grips or a crescent wrench and the job is done.
No special tool needed, no scratching the nipple.

Done, simple. Don't overthink the task at hand.

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Galvanizing, zinc, cadmium are all sacrificial coatings and will disappear over time. I wouldn't worry about the inside of a plated nipple as the entire block and heads coolant passages are bare cast iron and would rust long before the nipples will. I had these tools from a bathroom remodeling and they came in handy pulling a galled heater nipple on my 383 water pump. Had to use oxy/acetilene torch also. They got the job done asap and also on reinstallation of the new nipple. Would I buy a set to install a nipple? Probably not. Just an option put out to solve someone elses problem.

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Yes, they will rust even with coolant. Look at a set of original nipples the insides are always corroded and a bear to remove.There is a reason why water pump manufacturers galvanize their pump impellers .. Coolant passages in a block are much thicker than the metal the nipple is made out of ,not including the increased pressure through the small diameter nipple that the water passages dont experience..., A piece of sheet metal to turn the slot? Not too sure if that would work.,Reason why is ,The slot is .125 wide and only .150 deep,Since the steel nipples are pipe thread and tapered its very important to make sure the nipples are tight. A peice of sheet metal closest to that size would be 11 ga (around .119 thick) Since its only going down .150 into the slot ,I wouldn't think that you could get it tight enough before the sheet metal fatigues. This is why the aftermarket ones you buy from the Auto Parts Store have a hex on the end to be tightened .These are milled to fit the slot and are made from 316 Stainless steel.They are $40 plus $5 shipping USA. I only made a short supply of these. You can email me direct at jrivinius@sc.rr.com for a paypal invoice. Thank you Moparts

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John- again as a toolmaker also i have serious appreciation for what you do. High quality work!

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Thank you and well appreciated. I was commissioned to make some of these for a few mopar engine builders, I figured i would make a few more for anyone that would want them. Once they are gone they are gone.

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Thanks John for providing tools to help hobbyists like me. I have a whole separate drawer in my tool box for Mopar specific tools, all labeled for identification.

A friend of mine who's a professional mechanic really likes the torsion bar tool.



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Your Welcome Ron, Enjoy..

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I just ordered these from you the other night. I've put plenty in without the tool but always thought there should be an easier way. Next time there will be!!!!!
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