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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: TMP66] #763306
08/02/10 09:35 PM
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because they want the cars to go fast


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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: Steve1118] #763307
08/03/10 12:13 AM
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I know the Nova was run in the Stock classes but as you can clearly see in the picture it was also run in
C/SS.


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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: Steve1118] #763308
08/03/10 05:09 PM
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Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me , we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields There is literally more than I can attend.





When I mentioned participation and interest, I look at it from the perspective of living west of the continental divide. Not nearly the amount of events or number of associations like back east and in the midwest.

Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: Steve1118] #763309
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The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality.




Not sure exactally what a "bracket mentality" is.

NSS cars, if built to the limit of rules of most associations (Lexan windows, liberal use of fiberglass, oversized 'factory' hood scoops, intake & carb combos that never existed for certain year vehicles, aluminum heads, unlimited C.I.) combined with lack of real a real class structure other than pick your class based on ET, they are are more bracket car than real super stocker.

If the cars are restricted by year and visual appearance to resemble S/S cars or even Jr. stockers of the past to include big car/small car small block combos it would make the series even more unique and like it really was back in the day.
Just my and thinking a little outside the current box.

Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: TMP66] #763310
08/07/10 01:55 AM
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I'd be willing to wager that if historical lower SS class cars came, as in wearing their period paint schemes and equipment, they'd be popular. I would love to see even the real/vintage lower Stock class cars, like the '55-'57 Chevys, run. Those were great days.
I really don't even care about their ETs that much, just to see them run again.
No elimination ladder, just bring the old cars out and make a few passes, display, visit with the "real" guys you'd invite, and keep the history alive and correct.

Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: topside] #763311
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I'd be willing to wager that if historical lower SS class cars came, as in wearing their period paint schemes and equipment, they'd be popular. I would love to see even the real/vintage lower Stock class cars, like the '55-'57 Chevys, run. Those were great days. I really don't even care about their ETs that much, just to see them run again.
No elimination ladder, just bring the old cars out and make a few passes, display, visit with the "real" guys you'd invite, and keep the history alive and correct.




With the expecption of just making passes. Racers want to race. Dial-in and maybe ladder the cars first round with a mix of ET ranges and vehicle makes.
I think this could be a fun deal and an affordable addition.




Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: TMP66] #763312
08/07/10 11:37 AM
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Again, interest and popularity is not an issue. To be frank, NSS simply doesn't NEED those cars. Besides, at least here in the northeast, there is a Nostalgia Jr. Stock deal gaining momentum for those pieces.

As far as "bracket mentality"...it is the "we race for blood" and "it's a business" mentality that has spawned electronics and all the other gizmos that you need to win in brackets today. It has spawned the "professional" bracket racer that travels to events, all paying big bucks and costing big bucks to enter....and buy backs that have made the program run until next Tuesday to finish up. That is wonderful for those that want that..but NSS guys are different. Perhaps it's generational, but, even though very competitive the guys just want to race the old cars, put on a show, and have some fun. Intensity and the Rol-Aids can be left at work. It's hard to describe, but is pretty obvious once you've done both types of racing. But, the environment, as well as the cars, is very much nostalgic. The whole package.

Them's the rules. If you want an NSS car, build one within the rules and come out and have some fun. It works very well as is. If you don't like it, start your own program.


"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!"

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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: Steve1118] #763313
08/07/10 01:21 PM
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wow great job steve, couldnt have said it better

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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: moparbrown14] #763314
08/07/10 01:34 PM
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Darn, I guess my idea of a "wide block" 318 (a.k.a., polysphere) in NSS is out! Too hard to find roller cams for it anyway. I guess I'll have to use my Hemi stuff instead. Sigh!


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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: mr_340] #763315
08/07/10 05:13 PM
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Your going to have to stick to one of them old Hemis, Jim.


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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks? [Re: Steve1118] #763316
08/07/10 06:58 PM
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