Whats the difference in these 2 events/classes/functions???

There isn't huge differences.

Ralph allows more deviations from factory casting number parts, more aftermarket blocks,siamese bores, etc.in Supercars.

Come on out to a FAST race to see what it's all about. I am 50-60% sure I am going to the Mopar Nats, Not sure if Jeff P is coming, Don't know which car Tom C is bringing, but there should be a few smallblock mopars out there.

Basicly one is just a rip off of the other.

About 1.1 seconds and 13 mph .

The two classes are similar but have very different intents.

SuperCar offers, a more competitive quick eight field. (Sportmans Ladder in Supercars, Pro Ladder in fast)

SuperCar does not allow the use of bald polyglas tires (ie slick polyglas tires) SuperCar Tire rule: Tire Tech; All the repop tire treads are similar in design, 4-6 deep circular tread grooves with smaller grooves and sipes within those rows. There must be evidence of the original main tread grooves over the whole tire to be legal. Any bald sections or patches where the original main groove disappears and the tire must be replaced.

SuperCars does not allow the use of stand alone traction control. When/if caught using stand alone traction control you will be banned from the series.

SuperCars does not allow the trunk area to be use to house fuel cells, weight distribution/contraptions. Must look factory correct.

SuperCars is structured around the original intent of factory appearing musclecar racing.

Most important (This is HUGE) SuperCar Races gives back to the community. Through our races, merchandise sales, cruiz-ins and other activities we have donated over $3300.00 in the past two years to the Make A Wish foundation.

For a complete run down of rules, records and a complete schedule of events. please visit www.SuperCarRaces.com

I think you need 8 cars to have a quick 8 field

I was gonna keep away from this post but i`ll add my . Like everybody else already stated, there are slight differences between the two classes. Unless you have been trapped in a cave you have been reading about FAST cars for 10 years now. If you want to attend a race and see all these cars you’ve been reading about you’ll see them at the FAST races. At Englishtown last year we had 7 cars running in the 10`s and this year the entire quick 8 field will be in the 10`s. I don`t believe the other class has had one single car run 10`s this year? Our rules are way tighter and we have had cars running in the 10.teens at over 137 mph.

*FAST does not allow the BIG INCH MEGA blocks, we only allow factory water blocks. Most of the FAST guy`s like the challenge of building power around limitations. That`s what attracted them to the class to begin with. FAST tear down to keep the cars in check!

*To run in FAST you have to run the intake, heads, manifolds, etc the car left the factory with. The other race will let you run a mega block and a set of heads the car never seen from the factory. F.A.S.T. is keeping it grass roots, from the out-siders point of view more impressive because of the restrictions we face. It keeps the class intriguing and that`s part of the reason even after 10 years we still attract magazine coverage at our races. This year, after 10 years, will be our biggest year..

I`m tired of this "traction control" deal, first off you CAN NOT police against it, the top of the line $5000 units are made *not to be detected or found*. NASCAR and their million of dollars of resources can`t police against it and are constantly fighting this subject. Supercar or FAST, Please..LoL.
Every single traction control system out these basically runs off the ignition system. I`ll offer this up. At the Nats you buy me a MSD6AL we will wire it up and i`ll make a pass with no "traction control", I don`t run traction control so my ET/MPH will be the same. If not i`ll hand you over $500. Once in a while a traction control post comes up here and i`ll PM the guy and tell him what i found, he will write me back a few month later and tell me I was 100% correct. I`ve tried 3 different ETC set-ups and my car was slower with them all.

I think both series are amazing what people can do with there stock appearing cars. I personally race in the supercar series. The reason being is that Ralph and everyone have treated me quite well. Their events are closer to where I live. Don't get me wrong the 10 second cars are great, but I would never be competitive in FAST. I do not have the finances nor time especially in this economy to build a car like that. For me, my car is street driven 3-5k a year and I like to take it to the track from time to time. Great group, great times and it helps a great cause.

The thing I don't get is way Ralph would change the rules just enough to keep some of the F.A.S.T guys away.... From here it looks like some kind of pissing contest......

F.A.S.T is a blast and there are a great bunch of guys doing it .....If I didn't live so far away, I'd have built my car to run in it....

I think both are great for the hobby. I have one legitimate question regarding tires. I would think that cars running in the low 11's and in the 10's would blow through the treads on a set of polyglas pretty quickly, in fact saying bald polyglas are slicks doesn't seem to make sense to me. Other than the FAST class I've never seen race car guys at the track running bald polyglass instead of slicks, just my Secondly wouldn't mega blocks and after market heads be a bigger advantage than a pair of bald polyglass? Again, I'm a neophyte to the racing scene and I do not intend to bust chops, just thinking logically.

At the Mopar Nats you guy's can come over and look at my tires and this topic will be done.

They are the same poly repo tires just worn down, they are not slicks. Am I suppose to buy a new set of tires every event? That's like saying Joe Blow is gonna take the "bald" BF Goodrich radial T/A's off from his 77 Camaro and bolt them on a 7 second 10"inch tire car and run the same. Their both "slicks" LoL...

Why not settle this at the Nats? Have a FAST vs SUPERCAR showdown, it would be a great racing fun and a great draw for the show, not to mention quite the grudge match!

Hey Ralph, our tire rule has been the exact same for 10 years now....

It would be way to one sided to do the FAST cars are much Faster