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451 pistons #744133
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Does anyone know of some off the shelf forged pistons for a 451 with using 400 length rods?? All the ones I look at are using 440 length rods not 400 length rods.???


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Re: 451 pistons [Re: moparmattkos] #744134
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Have you checked Ross Pistons (6.358")?

Ross BB Mopar pistons


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Re: 451 pistons [Re: 440Jim] #744135
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Curious, not questioning.... But: Why build the short rod version? I always thought the RB rod version had an optimum rod-ratio? And it seems that pistons for the short rod version would be taller, thus heavier??
Just wondering


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Re: 451 pistons [Re: moparmattkos] #744136
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we carry them for both rod lengths.

Re: 451 pistons [Re: StealthWedge67] #744137
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Curious, not questioning.... But: Why build the short rod version? I always thought the RB rod version had an optimum rod-ratio? And it seems that pistons for the short rod version would be taller, thus heavier??
Just wondering





Main reason at this point is budget. I have a brand new set of eagle h beams for 6.385 and i would like to use them if i could.


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we carry them for both rod lengths.




Ok cool but who are "we"?


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Re: 451 pistons [Re: moparmattkos] #744139
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Makes sense, I guess. You probobly could sell them on the bag, and buy some RB length rods. I suppose either motor will work well, but I think you're giving away a bit in the area of bobweight with the short rod version. (???)


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Main reason at this point is budget. I have a brand new set of eagle h beams for 6.385 and i would like to use them if i could.


I thought the factory Mopar 383/400 rod length was 6.358, that sounds like a rod for a different application...BB Chevy.

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Re: 451 pistons [Re: 440Jim] #744141
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Main reason at this point is budget. I have a brand new set of eagle h beams for 6.385 and i would like to use them if i could.


I thought the factory Mopar 383/400 rod length was 6.358, that sounds like a rod for a different application...BB Chevy.





Sorry Jim my dixlexia just popped up again !! LOL i meant 6.358 not 6.385 lol


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Main reason at this point is budget. I have a brand new set of eagle h beams for 6.385 and i would like to use them if i could.


I thought the factory Mopar 383/400 rod length was 6.358, that sounds like a rod for a different application...BB Chevy.





Sorry Jim my dixlexia just popped up again !! LOL i meant 6.358 not 6.385 lol




Keith Black P/N #215 and P/N #251 pistons are for the 400/451 application with the 6.358 rods. And since Eagle only appears to make their 6.358 rods with 1.094" piston pins, the KB Pistons will make a good option for you so long as you're not running nitrous.







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