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Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: 540challenger] #740825 07/14/10 07:53 AM 07/14/10 07:53 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 146 florida/ Georgia T Tom Fox member
Tom Fox member T Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 146 florida/ Georgia	you might as well face the fact, you are going to have to pull the engine and replace the cam bearing. Tom

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: Tom Fox] #740826 07/14/10 08:17 AM 07/14/10 08:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,222 okla. O okie OP pro stock
okie OP pro stock O Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,222 okla.	All the rockers have holes in them so maybe they would work. Ronnie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: okie] #740827 07/14/10 08:19 AM 07/14/10 08:19 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	By the time you waste all this time on the internet, you could have had the motor out of the car and apart.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: okie] #740828 07/14/10 08:20 AM 07/14/10 08:20 AM
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okie OP pro stock O Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,222 okla.	I could pull the cam and the 1 head and drill out the bearing for that side and that is what I'm thinking about doing. That way I won't have to pull the motor which is what I don't want to do. Ronnie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: okie] #740829 07/14/10 08:31 AM 07/14/10 08:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Remember to clean all the fillings out if you drill it. It could be fun with the engine still in the car. If you have your ducks in a row you can have that engine out in an hour +/-.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: okie] #740830 07/14/10 08:34 AM 07/14/10 08:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,003 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,003 U.S.S.A.	Quote: All the rockers have holes in them so maybe they would work. Ronnie Yes they have holes but what will happen is the oil would spray up on the valve cover and drip down on TOP of the shaft and the rocker, there is a reason the oil hole is UNDER the rocker , that's where the oil needs to be , not dripping on top of the shaft . It's your decision, your motor and your money.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: JohnRR] #740831 07/14/10 01:04 PM 07/14/10 01:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Do it right (correctly) now or pay later.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: okie] #740832 07/14/10 01:44 PM 07/14/10 01:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,077 Oklahoma City Jwilli500 top fuel
Jwilli500 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,077 Oklahoma City	If your willing to pull the cam, why don't you just replace the incorrectly installed cam bearing? (And not remove the head too) Quote: I could pull the cam and the 1 head and drill out the bearing for that side and that is what I'm thinking about doing. That way I won't have to pull the motor which is what I don't want to do. Ronnie Last edited by Jwilli500; 07/14/10 01:49 PM.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: JohnRR] #740833 07/14/10 02:24 PM 07/14/10 02:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,095 Bloomington, Illernoise cptn60 super stock
cptn60 super stock Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,095 Bloomington, Illernoise	Quote: Quote: All the rockers have holes in them so maybe they would work. Ronnie Yes they have holes but what will happen is the oil would spray up on the valve cover and drip down on TOP of the shaft and the rocker, there is a reason the oil hole is UNDER the rocker , that's where the oil needs to be , not dripping on top of the shaft . It's your decision, your motor and your money. + This space available for rent

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: Jwilli500] #740834 07/14/10 02:52 PM 07/14/10 02:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: I could pull the cam and the 1 head and drill out the bearing for that side and that is what I'm thinking about doing. That way I won't have to pull the motor which is what I don't want to do. Ronnie If your willing to pull the cam, why don't you just replace the incorrectly installed cam bearing? (And not remove the head too) Quote: That might make sense.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: okie] #740835 07/14/10 03:10 PM 07/14/10 03:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	Where in OK are you? We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: Jwilli500] #740836 07/14/10 03:23 PM 07/14/10 03:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,003 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,003 U.S.S.A.	Quote: If your willing to pull the cam, why don't you just replace the incorrectly installed cam bearing? (And not remove the head too) Have you ever tried to replace a bearing from the top? It's going to be pretty hard to do it that way, doable but there is the risk of dropping the old bearing and/or the new one .

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: JohnRR] #740837 07/14/10 04:47 PM 07/14/10 04:47 PM
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602heavy pro stock 6 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,200 UK	Turn motor over till #7 ex lifter is over the nose , this will line up cam & oil feed to drivers head , the same applies for #8 ex lobe oiling pas side head , this will let you know if oil holes in #4 cam bearing line up with oil feed in block , good luck.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: 602heavy] #740838 07/14/10 05:39 PM 07/14/10 05:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,222 okla. O okie OP pro stock
okie OP pro stock O Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,222 okla.	OK I don't know what I'm going to do yet. I'm just getting over kidney surgery (cancer) and I really don't feel like tearing it down but I may have to. If I do tear it down I'm going to pull the head and drill it out instead of trying to replace the bearing. I just wanted to get the car done it has been a long time getting to this point. Thanks Everyone for the advice and help. Ronnie Feets I'm just across the river north of Dallas on 69 just past Choctaw Casino.. Thanks Ronnie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: okie] #740839 07/14/10 07:22 PM 07/14/10 07:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	Quote: OK I don't know what I'm going to do yet. I'm just getting over kidney surgery (cancer) and I really don't feel like tearing it down but I may have to. If I do tear it down I'm going to pull the head and drill it out instead of trying to replace the bearing. I just wanted to get the car done it has been a long time getting to this point. Thanks Everyone for the advice and help. Ronnie Feets I'm just across the river north of Dallas on 69 just past Choctaw Casino.. Thanks Ronnie what are you planning to do about all the metal filing that will inevitably get on the oil pump and destroy it. not to mention what will get thrown up on the cylinder walls to get trapped between the piston and wall. honestly, the best fix isn't going to be the easiest fix, but it's still the best one.. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: Performance Only] #740840 07/14/10 07:25 PM 07/14/10 07:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	what are you planning to do about all the metal filing that will inevitably get on the oil pump and destroy it. not to mention what will get thrown up on the cylinder walls to get trapped between the piston and wall. honestly, the best fix isn't going to be the easiest fix, but it's still the best one.. Thanks for backing up my statement from above a few posts.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: 602heavy] #740841 07/14/10 09:11 PM 07/14/10 09:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Turn motor over till #7 ex lifter is over the nose , this will line up cam & oil feed to drivers head , the same applies for #8 ex lobe oiling pas side head , this will let you know if oil holes in #4 cam bearing line up with oil feed in block I'm gonna copy this for sure live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: RapidRobert] #740842 07/14/10 09:23 PM 07/14/10 09:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	Think I've seen different patterns drilled on some mfgs.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: buildanother] #740843 07/14/10 09:49 PM 07/14/10 09:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,200 UK 6 602heavy pro stock
602heavy pro stock 6 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,200 UK	Quote: Think I've seen different patterns drilled on some mfgs. This applies to all B/RB motors , obviously will deviate a few degrees depending on lobe sep , all the same it gets you pretty close , can sometimes be a pain trying to turn the motor over with a drill in the other hand.

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! [Re: okie] #740844 07/15/10 11:31 AM 07/15/10 11:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	Okie, I'd drop in and give you a hand on this but this weekend is kinda busy. I'm sure we'd be able to get oil to the other side without excessive hassle. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

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