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new 383 Not Oiling!!!! UPDATE!!!!!

Posted By: okie

new 383 Not Oiling!!!! UPDATE!!!!! - 07/05/10 05:46 PM

My new rebuilt 383 is not oiling on the top of the head on the passenger side. The rod was on it right. What could be causing this? The other side is oiling and the gauge shows about 50# when idling. I ran a wire down the oil holes and the back one went in a lot farther than the front one. What could be stopping the oil flow? It has new MP head gaskets on it. I need some help on this fast. Thanks for any suggestions. Ronnie
Posted By: bobby66

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 05:58 PM

Maybe the #4 cam bearing isn't lined up with the oil holes. Seen it before....
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:03 PM

Posted By: buildanother

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:06 PM

Are you certain that the pass head is not getting oil? It does not get oil when drivers head gets it. They alternate oil feed with cam position.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:09 PM

Only the 2nd in from the rear rocker stands get oil , the front ones are blocked at the deck , the holes are like this so the heads can fit on either side of the block .

If you are only getting oil to one head and not the other there is a blockage and as stated the #4 cam bearing could be installed incorrectly .
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:10 PM

It is just the head on the passenger side that isn't getting oil, I don't even know where to start on it. Makes you just want to give up on it. I've almost got the car done and now this. Ronnie
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:11 PM

Does the #4 cam bearing oil just 1 head are does it oil both of them? Ronnie
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:13 PM

It oils them both , but not at the same time , it oil one then the other, the other thing that might be wrong is the cam is not drilled properly.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:16 PM

How would the cam be drilled wrong, what would I look for? I think I'll spin the motor over some tomorrow and see what happens since I have the rockers off. That won't hurt it will it? Ronnie
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:20 PM

The cam maker could have not drilled all the intersecting holes in the cam for the oil to pass thru .

Yes rotating it by hand will get you oil and no you won't hurt anything ... (running it to find the problem will potentially damage something though) , be prepared for a STREAM of oil when the passage is open to oil pressure .
Posted By: buildanother

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:21 PM

The cam is drilled right if one gets oil at all.
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 08:25 PM

You have to turn the engine over to get oil to the other side. Only one side oils at a time depending on camshaft position. As you are priming the engine turn it over and you will have oil.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 09:04 PM

The passenger side is dry of oil, I'll just have to see what happens tommorow. The engine has been ran some. Ronnie
Posted By: buildanother

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 09:23 PM

If there is NO oil getting to that side after running it, and other side gets plenty of oil, I believe the 4th cam bearing was installed incorrectly. I would probably resort to some trickery that would involve a long 1/8" drill bit and strategic lineup of cam before a little drilling is done. This is provided that the path to cam is a straight shot after removal of rocker shaft, which I think it is. The trick is to line cam up first, then drill hole in bearing, then immediately prime oil system and catch the filings coming out the top, with rags etc, before re-install of shaft. That's just my thoughts on correcting somebody's mistake. It could have a ball of casting crud stuck in there too. SCRATCH that. Just checked a 906 head, not straight shot, angle at top of head rocker pedestal, straight long bit won't do it.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 10:46 PM

I don't know what I'm going to do now, I have the car almost finished and now this. All I liked was the seat covers. I ran a wire down the hole today but I didn't try to pump any oil so maybe I'll luck out and got it unplugged. If it didn't there might be a 70 RR up for sale. Ronnie
Posted By: buildanother

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 11:04 PM

You may consider going with through hole pushrods and lifters if there is no other way to get oil through the head.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/05/10 11:43 PM

Where would I get them? And what would I ask for? Thanks Ronnie
Posted By: buildanother

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 12:26 AM

Probably big companies like Comp cams could set you up. Others, sealed power etc too I would hope. (Currently have a 71 440 in garage with a comp cam and lifters with oiling through pushrod seat lifters in it)
Posted By: lokalik

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 02:46 AM

ronnie don't give up on it. you will find that when you get one thing fixed it's only a matter of time before something else pops up. these old cars are like that and the seat covers can be a pain in theazz, if you use the wrong rings(hog, pig or shoats) you will be cutting alot of them off. you may be having to pull the motor or go thru the frontend to change out the cam bearings, but git er done and drive it.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 03:04 AM

I'd start over and take off the pass rocker assy, set a clean rag over the pedestals and take out the inter shaft and drill prime it (CCW) while a helper SLOWLY turns the crank CW w a 1&1/4" socket and a breaker bar as you man the drill and watch for the rag to get (hopefully) soaked. You need the rag or you will have oil in your face and on the car which will spoil your joy at discovering that it is indeed (hopefully) oiling. IF NOT take off the pass head and drill horizontally into the rear of the head then countersink a slight bit down in the threads in the rear pedestal so you can drill down at an angle to meet the horizontle passage. Tap into the NPT plug in the oil passage in the top rear of the block next to the oil sender to feed oil into the rear of the head. That way you dont have to disturb the shortblock and when you take the head off you can check the head gasket for no obstruction and run a rod in there to check for a restriction if it is a straight shot. good luck & holler back w the outcome
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 09:56 AM

I'm going to mess with it some this morning and see what I can do with it. I just hate to have to tear the motor down again. Ronnie
Posted By: StandOnIt

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 12:16 PM

Ronnie, I think all of us have had to pull a new motor back out of something to search for a problem of some kind. You are not the only one by far. It just happens as stated before. Don't be afraid to yank it out. It will only set you back a day or two. No big deal. The car will give WAY more enjoyment when its done than pain building it. You will be able to laugh at all this in a few months.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 06:14 PM

I checked it this morning and it's not oiling on either side. I ran a drill and it did not pump up. A well known Mopar mechanic local to me said to pull the oil pump and prime it with Lucas and it would fix my problem. He said the pump would have a hard time picking up the oil by it's self. What does everyone think about this? Ronnie
Posted By: buildanother

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 06:47 PM

I don't think you are getting the fact that the heads only get oil at 2 certain positions of the camshaft. That's why you have to either turn engine slowly WHILE priming pump, OR find the 2 exact positions the cam must be in to let oil go through it, to get to each cyl head. If you have 50 psi of pressure at test port, the pump is pumping fine.
Posted By: feets

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 07:00 PM

Is the drill working hard to turn the pump?
When the pump isn't primed, the drill will spin fairly quickly. As pressure start to build the drill slows down. In fact, it can yank itself out of your hand if you're not careful.

If the drill loads up like the pump is working, pull the oil sending unit at the back of the block. Spin the pump again and it should spray oil like Old Faithful.
Posted By: RoadRunner

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 07:21 PM

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Is the drill working hard to turn the pump?
When the pump isn't primed, the drill will spin fairly quickly. As pressure start to build the drill slows down. In fact, it can yank itself out of your hand if you're not careful.

If the drill loads up like the pump is working, pull the oil sending unit at the back of the block. Spin the pump again and it should spray oil like Old Faithful.





The drill will be loaded. I used a 1/2" drive on my motor and it just about ripped out of my hands. Also make sure you are spinning the drill in the right direction. CCW if I recall. And, per above, once you are pumping oil, have a helper slowly turn over the engine. The lube in the pump is a good trick for the first time. But once the pump has primed, you should be OK.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 08:23 PM

I understand about the positioning of the cam, but it didn't load the drill at all. It was just a 3/8 drill and it didn't pull it down any so I don't think the pump is primed. I'm going to try priming the pump and see what happens. Ronnie
Posted By: az426john

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 08:45 PM

I had the same issue on my Hemi car that was just rebuilt and after driving myself nuts I finally followed the advise of a friend who had exactly the same problem with his Hemi.

Make sure everything is good on the top end, lube the crap out of the top end with cam lube put on the rocker covers and fire it up.

The top end is the last thing to get oil and on some race cars the oil passages to the heads are blocked off or restricted.

If you have a hydraulic cam and you don't have oil you will know within about 30 seconds.

The #4 cam bearing and the holes in the block are lined up at about 120 degrees intervals if you have 2 lined up it is really difficult to have the 3rd one blind.

I finally bit the bullet and fired the car up and there was oil on the drivers side almost immediately.

Anyhow that is my story.

Best of luck
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 09:41 PM

I know you can't go by the gauges, they are 40 years old and work very sporatic if at all. I guess if your going to mess with these old cars you really don't need to let it get to you so bad. But I'm always learning different stuff on them by trial and error and all the help I get on here. Maybe I'll get it straightened out. THANKS Ronnie
Posted By: feets

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 11:19 PM

I didn't even think about spinning the pump the wrong way. Make sure you aren't doing that. It does spin counter clockwise.
Posted By: HitIt

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/06/10 11:47 PM

I vote against 426John's advice of firing it up before you diagnose what the problem really is. If there is a plugged oil passage or that #4 cam bearing isn't right, you're going to cause your poopy situation to get worse and way more expensive to fix. It worked out for that guy but that is pretty damn lucky in my opinion.

I hate to beat a dead horse, but have you tried priming while someone turns the engine over? Everyone is suggesting it but I can't tell if you've actually tried it yet.

Is the oil pump new? You seem to say it doesn't load the drill while priming it. Did the gasket line up right and not block any passages in the oil pump? I guess I'm confused on that one becuase you say it's priming the one side of the engine ok.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 12:00 AM

Yes, I have turned the motor over as spinning the pump and still nothing. I'm going to prime the pump since I've done about everything else. The oil gauge did move once but I think it was just a fluke because it isn't working and I had moved some wires.So maybe one of these days I can get it figured out. Ronnie
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 12:07 AM

Are you spinning the pump with the drill in reverse rotation. You have to turn the pump counterclockwise.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 12:10 AM

Running the drill counter clockwise all the time. Ronnie
Posted By: HemiSportFury

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 01:58 AM

The last BB I rebuilt I had to losen the oil filter to get the pump to prime. Workd fine once it took a prime. Easy enough to try, although it might make a little mess.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 12:26 PM

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Yes, I have turned the motor over as spinning the pump and still nothing. I'm going to prime the pump since I've done about everything else. The oil gauge did move once but I think it was just a fluke because it isn't working and I had moved some wires.So maybe one of these days I can get it figured out. Ronnie




Did you put a mechanical gauge on it ?
Posted By: az426john

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 06:32 PM

To each his own.

After you have checked and double checked everything to assure it is installed correctly (rocker arm shafts etc.) and run a wire or brazing rod down the oil feed holes on both banks and they are both exactly the same length, primed the motor and you have oil on one bank then you are pretty much faced with 2 choices...

1. Disassemble the engine.

or

2. Fire it up.

If you have any confidence in your work that also plays a role in it.

I convinced my engine builder to put a length of brazing rod down through each oil hole after the bearings are installed and take a digital photo as proof that the #4 cam bearing is correctly installed prior to installing the cam.

It has worked so far.

My buddy completely pulled his Hemi down after the rebuild, cleaned and checked everything, primed it (again) and it still never got oil to the drivers side rocker arm assembly until he fired it up. This is exactly what happend to me also.

If you lube the crap out of it you will not hurt it if you only run it for 30 seconds or so. If the valve train does not make noise and the lifters are all pumped up then you can pretty much rest assured that it is getting oil.

I had primed and turned over the motor so much that the lifters were already pumped up.

Best of luck!!!
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 06:54 PM

FINALLY!!!!! I loosened the oil filter and spun the pump and it went to pumping, I guess it wasn't picking up the oil because of air in it. I didn't get it started because I have got to put it all back together but I think it is fixed now. i want to THANK everybody for all the help and advice with out it I would still be bumfussled. Maybe I can get it back together tomorrow if every thing goes right. Thanks Again Ronnie
Posted By: HogRidinFool

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 08:02 PM

What a great read...Hope it turns out ok for you...Great peeps on this site!
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/07/10 10:15 PM

THANKS!!!!!! Ronnie
Posted By: MarkZ

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/08/10 12:07 AM

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FINALLY!!!!! I loosened the oil filter and spun the pump and it went to pumping, I guess it wasn't picking up the oil because of air in it. I didn't get it started because I have got to put it all back together but I think it is fixed now. i want to THANK everybody for all the help and advice with out it I would still be bumfussled. Maybe I can get it back together tomorrow if every thing goes right. Thanks Again Ronnie




Was the oil filter empty, or did you pre-fill it?
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/08/10 01:03 AM

yep you didnt fill the filter did you.... dan
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/08/10 01:06 AM

Seen air locked filters on big blocks many times.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/12/10 07:57 PM

Ok, I got the pump primed and it is still only oiling on the 1 side. I want to put the hollow push rods in it instead of tearing it down. I have the MP 484 cam and lifters in it, will these lifters work with the hollow push rods are will I have to change them too? Thanks Ronnie
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/12/10 08:08 PM

Most lifters have the hollow cup though some lifters use hollow cups for standardization of parts but do not actually oil thru (dissassemble one to find out) but the prob is that splash from the end of the p rod will not reach the shaft/rocker contact area and MAY not put enough on the stem as mag pedestal rockers for instance are different and have a hole in the top w a nub to direct spray.
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/12/10 08:54 PM

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Ok, I got the pump primed and it is still only oiling on the 1 side. I want to put the hollow push rods in it instead of tearing it down. I have the MP 484 cam and lifters in it, will these lifters work with the hollow push rods are will I have to change them too? Thanks Ronnie


Did you turn the engine over while priming or is thins with the engine running?? Remember that the engine only oils one side at a time depending on the cam position.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/12/10 08:59 PM

I had it running, I oiled everything down before I started it. I put Lucas on all the rockers. Ronnie
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/12/10 11:58 PM

IMO - Get to the bottom of the problem - don't try bandaiding it. It may just lead to have a bigger problem down the road.
Posted By: dodge41969

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/13/10 04:38 AM

sounds like the rocker arm shafts are upside down,the oil holes should be down and facing towards the exhaust manifolds/headers.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/13/10 10:51 AM

The shafts are on it correct so that isn't it. Ronnie
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/13/10 12:34 PM

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Ok, I got the pump primed and it is still only oiling on the 1 side. I want to put the hollow push rods in it instead of tearing it down. I have the MP 484 cam and lifters in it, will these lifters work with the hollow push rods are will I have to change them too? Thanks Ronnie




You can not HALFASS it by putting on hollow pushrods , how is the oil going to get UNDER the rockers?

You are going to have to tear into it to find the problem, obviously you don't want to but there is no way around it, if you ran it and it didn't oil that side something is blocking the passage.

My heads hurts so I'm not going to go back and reread this , did you put a wire down the oil passage on that side ? If so how far did it go ? Sometimes that passage can be blocked with old hard oil if that head was originally on the opposite side of the engine and it didn't get cleaned out . ? Just a thought .
Posted By: Commando1

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/13/10 12:52 PM

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The shafts are on it correct so that isn't it. Ronnie



Pull that shaft and post a picture.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/13/10 12:58 PM

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The shafts are on it correct so that isn't it. Ronnie



Pull that shaft and post a picture.




Why ? If it was on upside down he would see the holes with the valve cover off ... I'm ASSuMEing he is NOT blind ... ..., ASSuMEing he has stamped steel rockers and even if it were on backwards , the hole towards the intake instead of the exhaust, he would still get oil out, it just doesn't direct the oil under pressure to the area that gets the most contact, the groove in a stamped rocker goes front to back so it still gets full oil flow.
Posted By: Commando1

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/13/10 09:40 PM

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The shafts are on it correct so that isn't it. Ronnie



Pull that shaft and post a picture.




Why ?



Because, dummy, before I go on any further with my valuable expertise being given out for nothing, therefor proving you get what you pay for..........

I wanna see with my own eyes. Eyes don't lie.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/13/10 11:31 PM

I don't have any way to post a picture. But I can assure you that is on right, I have had it off several times. I ran a wire down it and it is clean and run the wire down the oil hole. So it is either tear the motor down are swap out the push rods and lifters. Ronnie
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 12:42 AM

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I don't have any way to post a picture. But I can assure you that is on right, I have had it off several times. I ran a wire down it and it is clean and run the wire down the oil hole. So it is either tear the motor down are swap out the push rods and lifters. Ronnie




What kind of rockers are you using ?
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 10:25 AM

The rockers are the stock ones, everything is stock on the heads. Ronnie
Posted By: 68jim

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 10:57 AM

It has been a while since I installed cam bearings. It is possible to have #4 (I think) cam bearing installed improperly or can the bearing shift enough to allow oil to only one head? If you can run a wire down the oiling hole then do both sides and try to get an exact measurement to see if one side hits the back of the bearing vice the cam. I would think that if you had a difference that it might be something to look at.

Something to try???
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 11:21 AM

I'm sure he got the bearing in it wrong so now I'm going to have to decide what to do about it. I really don't want to tear the motor back down that is why I was thinking about changing the push rods and lifters, I have been told that would work by some and that it wouldn't work by others. I have just got to decide what to do. Ronnie
Posted By: 540challenger

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 11:42 AM

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I'm sure he got the bearing in it wrong so now I'm going to have to decide what to do about it. I really don't want to tear the motor back down that is why I was thinking about changing the push rods and lifters, I have been told that would work by some and that it wouldn't work by others. I have just got to decide what to do. Ronnie


You would also need to change the rockers they would need a hole for the oil go through stock rockers don't have this. Also must lifters now days are capable of pushrod oiling just look for the oil hole where the pushrod sits.
Posted By: Tom Fox

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 11:53 AM

you might as well face the fact, you are going to have to pull the engine and replace the cam bearing. Tom
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 12:17 PM

All the rockers have holes in them so maybe they would work. Ronnie
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 12:19 PM

By the time you waste all this time on the internet, you could have had the motor out of the car and apart.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 12:20 PM

I could pull the cam and the 1 head and drill out the bearing for that side and that is what I'm thinking about doing. That way I won't have to pull the motor which is what I don't want to do. Ronnie
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 12:31 PM

Remember to clean all the fillings out if you drill it. It could be fun with the engine still in the car. If you have your ducks in a row you can have that engine out in an hour +/-.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 12:34 PM

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All the rockers have holes in them so maybe they would work. Ronnie




Yes they have holes but what will happen is the oil would spray up on the valve cover and drip down on TOP of the shaft and the rocker, there is a reason the oil hole is UNDER the rocker , that's where the oil needs to be , not dripping on top of the shaft .

It's your decision, your motor and your money.
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 05:04 PM

Do it right (correctly) now or pay later.
Posted By: Jwilli500

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 05:44 PM

If your willing to pull the cam, why don't you just replace the incorrectly installed cam bearing? (And not remove the head too)
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I could pull the cam and the 1 head and drill out the bearing for that side and that is what I'm thinking about doing. That way I won't have to pull the motor which is what I don't want to do. Ronnie


Posted By: cptn60

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 06:24 PM

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All the rockers have holes in them so maybe they would work. Ronnie




Yes they have holes but what will happen is the oil would spray up on the valve cover and drip down on TOP of the shaft and the rocker, there is a reason the oil hole is UNDER the rocker , that's where the oil needs to be , not dripping on top of the shaft .

It's your decision, your motor and your money.




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Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 06:52 PM


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I could pull the cam and the 1 head and drill out the bearing for that side and that is what I'm thinking about doing. That way I won't have to pull the motor which is what I don't want to do. Ronnie






If your willing to pull the cam, why don't you just replace the incorrectly installed cam bearing? (And not remove the head too)
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That might make sense.
Posted By: feets

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 07:10 PM

Where in OK are you?
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 07:23 PM

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If your willing to pull the cam, why don't you just replace the incorrectly installed cam bearing? (And not remove the head too)





Have you ever tried to replace a bearing from the top? It's going to be pretty hard to do it that way, doable but there is the risk of dropping the old bearing and/or the new one .
Posted By: 602heavy

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 08:47 PM

Turn motor over till #7 ex lifter is over the nose , this will line up cam & oil feed to drivers head , the same applies for #8 ex lobe oiling pas side head , this will let you know if oil holes in #4 cam bearing line up with oil feed in block , good luck.
Posted By: okie

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 09:39 PM

OK I don't know what I'm going to do yet. I'm just getting over kidney surgery (cancer) and I really don't feel like tearing it down but I may have to. If I do tear it down I'm going to pull the head and drill it out instead of trying to replace the bearing. I just wanted to get the car done it has been a long time getting to this point. Thanks Everyone for the advice and help. Ronnie Feets I'm just across the river north of Dallas on 69 just past Choctaw Casino.. Thanks Ronnie
Posted By: Performance Only

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 11:22 PM

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OK I don't know what I'm going to do yet. I'm just getting over kidney surgery (cancer) and I really don't feel like tearing it down but I may have to. If I do tear it down I'm going to pull the head and drill it out instead of trying to replace the bearing. I just wanted to get the car done it has been a long time getting to this point. Thanks Everyone for the advice and help. Ronnie Feets I'm just across the river north of Dallas on 69 just past Choctaw Casino.. Thanks Ronnie




what are you planning to do about all the metal filing that will inevitably get on the oil pump and destroy it. not to mention what will get thrown up on the cylinder walls to get trapped between the piston and wall. honestly, the best fix isn't going to be the easiest fix, but it's still the best one..
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/14/10 11:25 PM






what are you planning to do about all the metal filing that will inevitably get on the oil pump and destroy it. not to mention what will get thrown up on the cylinder walls to get trapped between the piston and wall. honestly, the best fix isn't going to be the easiest fix, but it's still the best one..


Thanks for backing up my statement from above a few posts.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/15/10 01:11 AM

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Turn motor over till #7 ex lifter is over the nose , this will line up cam & oil feed to drivers head , the same applies for #8 ex lobe oiling pas side head , this will let you know if oil holes in #4 cam bearing line up with oil feed in block


I'm gonna copy this for sure
Posted By: buildanother

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/15/10 01:23 AM

Think I've seen different patterns drilled on some mfgs.
Posted By: 602heavy

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/15/10 01:49 AM

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Think I've seen different patterns drilled on some mfgs.




This applies to all B/RB motors , obviously will deviate a few degrees depending on lobe sep , all the same it gets you pretty close , can sometimes be a pain trying to turn the motor over with a drill in the other hand.
Posted By: feets

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/15/10 03:31 PM

Okie, I'd drop in and give you a hand on this but this weekend is kinda busy. I'm sure we'd be able to get oil to the other side without excessive hassle.
Posted By: jpilone

Re: new 383 Not Oiling!!!! - 07/15/10 03:44 PM

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Because, dummy, before I go on any further with my valuable expertise being given out for nothing, therefor proving you get what you pay for..........

I wanna see with my own eyes. Eyes don't lie.




LOL!!
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