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Guys (and Gals),

I see people referring to parts painted 50% (or some other %) black. I understand it's a reduction in the gloss but how are you achieving it?

Is it with a flattner? Additional thinner.

I'm using PPG DL for most of my black parts but they don't list a flattner on the spec sheet.


Re: 50% Black [Re: Morty426] #733383
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Flattening agent

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Flattening agent




Do you have the magic PPG part number?

Re: 50% Black [Re: Morty426] #733385
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Morty, its best to have your local PPG supplier recommend a flattening agent for the paint system you are going to use.

Not all flattening agents are the same, be positive you are getting the right stuff.

I once used DX 265 to flatten a gallon of black urethane (paint shop said it would be fine) and wasted a gallon of paint. Paint store found the mistake they made, replaced the paint and DX 265. I know DX 265 is compatible with Delstar and Duracryl.

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Morty, its best to have your local PPG supplier recommend a flattening agent for the paint system you are going to use.

Not all flattening agents are the same, be positive you are getting the right stuff.

I once used DX 265 to flatten a gallon of black urethane (paint shop said it would be fine) and wasted a gallon of paint. Paint store found the mistake they made, replaced the paint and DX 265. I know DX 265 is compatible with Delstar and Duracryl.




Mr Belvedere,

I would do that, but you see DL isn't really legal in CA

I have to order it or drive out of state.

Re: 50% Black [Re: Morty426] #733387
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Call your local paint supplier. They will tell what flatning agent you need and give you the ratio needed to acheive the desired degree of gloss

Re: 50% Black [Re: Dougsmopars] #733388
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Morty, what parts are you painting 50% black?

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Morty, what parts are you painting 50% black?




Scott - I'm not painting anything 50% black. I was just using that as an example. However I think that most everything that is black laquer is flattened a little.

If you have a recommended reduction ratio I'd love to see it

Re: 50% Black [Re: Morty426] #733390
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I don't because I don't believe ant of it was intentionally flattened to any degree. I believe it was all gloss black but due to the low quality of the paint, application methods, and possibly thinning agents used, it often resulted in a less than glossy or a "dull gloss" finish.

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I don't because I don't believe ant of it was intentionally flattened to any degree. I believe it was all gloss black but due to the low quality of the paint, application methods, and possibly thinning agents used, it often resulted in a less than glossy or a "dull gloss" finish.




I would guess they thinned it down to save money, but that doesn't seem to work well for me

Re: 50% Black [Re: Morty426] #733392
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I was told that naptha was used as a thinning agent for some paints.

Re: 50% Black [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #733393
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i've been trying to find a paint that will give the right look also, even a semi gloss black looks to glossy from the original black parts i have, the one that looks the best to me (maybe a bit less glossy than original) is the Krylon satin black.







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