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IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN #725538
06/15/10 11:55 PM
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BROOK PARK, OH
WILD BILL Offline OP
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I might just name this the PHOENIX s it once again rises from the ashes

I hve a lot of video to upload and edit so it will take me a little while to get that and the sheets scanned and loaded but I wanted to post a quick vid just to let everyne know all is good in the lane od blue

I'ld also like to thank Greg (Roadhazard) for making the trip out and spending the day with us.




Here's a quick vid before the pulls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHoYNyAKlAk


Now I got to get the real vids done

Last edited by WILD BILL; 06/15/10 11:59 PM.
Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725539
06/16/10 12:07 AM
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Congrats on getting it back together in a timely manor
has your converter shown up yet

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725540
06/16/10 12:07 AM
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Well ,( King Bill )i see that you made it home ok.Duster girl will want to see the 1 video Will get with you after i get with marco on the converters.Have nice blue dreams tonite!!

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725541
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Yea good that its running again!

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: b1headman] #725542
06/16/10 12:13 AM
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BROOK PARK, OH
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Quote:

Duster girl will want to see the 1 video




















Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725543
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Bill,Your bottom icon is very close to the video

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725544
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Scott, by the looks of it, you have a new FireCore part that you will be selling, thats a true benefit to the racer. I'll wait until Bill spills the beans,,


Join the quickest team in motorsports. Team FireCore. CustomWiresets.com
Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: sunroofgtx] #725545
06/16/10 12:56 AM
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I know , I know , I know

But I ain't saying


I was working but felt like I was playing hookie all day

Thanks for the hospitality Scott

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: roadhazard] #725546
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Congrats on getting it up and running again. I hope to eb joining you soon enough. If not with the good motor we will toss in the back up mule.


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Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725547
06/16/10 01:35 AM
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Hope you figured out the issues so it doesn`t happen again and I wish you the best at your next outing.


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Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725548
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hopefully i'll be saying the same soon!

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: Kevins493] #725549
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BROOK PARK, OH
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Ok, finally got all my ducks in a row and ready to post.

First things first, please bear in mind that we can compare todays #'s to the highst #'s got got last time. Those pulls were made with a 2" APD spacer and we completly forgot about that untill we were tearing it down.

So, for a fair comaprison of an apples to apples test, Here is the best dyno sheet On alky that is as we ran today.



The only other item to mention, and I was not aware of it till this afternoon, is that Scott decided to install the cam 3 deg adv from where it was last time. So instead of a ICL of 108 we are now at 105.

His thoughts behind this change were to increase the exh piston to valve clearence, and bring the power band down in the RPM range all in an effort to avoid the bent exh valve problem we had.


Here's the 2 warm up passes we made with Scott's dyno gas carb and C 12


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpTUA6cHXf0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MwuaZ9CQYY


This is where it gets really cool.

For this next pass the ONLY thing we changed was the coil. We swapped out Scott's HVC coil for the brand new FIRECORE coil I picked up from Sparky. Even Rick thought the HVC would out perfrom his coil but boy were we all surprised.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJEHAjH1DdQ



655 hp @ 6000 625 ft lbs @ 4900 with the HVC


662 @ 5900 633 ft lbs @ 5000 with the firecore

7 hp and 8 ft lbs just from swapping out coils

Now, on to the alcohol.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CdkHIqbicE


Pulled the timming from 35 to 33 degrees


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFVXA0h_sY


Back a little more to 31


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJY1r7XxafY


Back up to about 32.5


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvKjo6-aTVs


After seeing the torque #'s on the last pull we decided to leave it there. Yeah, we gave up some upper RPM HP but gained much more torque and got a nice flat curve to boot. Not to metion the piston to valve clearence gained as well as the the less wear and tear on the valve train. Neither of us wants to go back in to it anytime soon.


Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725550
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Good numbers, and good to see you back in business after all the mess. Thanks for posting all this info.

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725551
06/16/10 07:25 AM
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Good job getting it running again.

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: HardcoreB] #725552
06/16/10 07:30 AM
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BAD A$$!!!!!

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: WILD BILL] #725553
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very nice power figures...

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: smokinwoody] #725554
06/16/10 08:10 AM
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Have to agree with your decision on the last sheet....should be a strong runner in your car, can't wait to see what it runs with the vert figured out....

Rickster

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: rickstershemi] #725555
06/16/10 08:40 AM
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Very good! Gald to see you got it done...I think 6900 rpm is still pushing the point..

Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: VernMotor] #725556
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that is a nice improvement in the torque map..
not terribly far on on the hp graph...also.

so your looking at a 4000-4400 rpm converter?
cheapst


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Re: IT'S ALIVE ONCE AGAIN [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #725557
06/16/10 11:22 AM
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Thanks guys. I greatly appreciate you putting up with listening to me remable about this.

Jamie, we have some better springs in there so we should be alot better off than before.

Marco has the #'s and last I heard both conv were opened for inspection. Should be a far cry better than the last time out.

And now,


onto the lighter side of things




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