Re: E-85 or Race Fuel
[Re: Fast Yeti]
#721726
06/11/10 08:38 PM
06/11/10 08:38 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
Master
|
Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
|
Quote:
I am at a cross roads with regards to what fuel to run with my new motor.I am having a new bullet built and it is going to be a high compression combo, approx 14/1. This car will have limited street use and raced 1or 2 times a month. E-85 is available at a few stations here so it is an option. I am not looking for additional maintenance. I know some of you run E-85 and whats your experience? does it store it for any length of time? are the blends consistant or are you having to change jets often? Do you have to change oil more often? Or maybe just run VP 112.
It'll store just fine in a sealed steel drum(out of sun light... once you get the jetting right it covers a better range than jets in a gas set up... once you get the SUMMER BLEND (E-85) it stays that way till the fall rolls in then they start to drop the blend down to about E-70 as the colder weather starts so in the fall through the spring it could be anything from E-85 down to about E-70... there are tester you can buy cheap to check it.... you cant beat E-85 for a couple of reasons... cost... runs cooler... makes 105 octane... will run with higher compressions.... mine is 14.1:1
|
|
|
Re: E-85 or Race Fuel
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#721728
06/11/10 09:16 PM
06/11/10 09:16 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,932 NC
440Jim
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,932
NC
|
Quote:
It'll store just fine in a sealed steel drum(out of sun light... once you get the jetting right it covers a better range than jets in a gas set up... once you get the SUMMER BLEND (E-85) it stays that way till the fall rolls in then they start to drop the blend down to about E-70 as the colder weather starts so in the fall through the spring it could be anything from E-85 down to about E-70... there are tester you can buy cheap to check it.... you cant beat E-85 for a couple of reasons... cost... runs cooler... makes 105 octane... will run with higher compressions.... mine is 14.1:1
I agree, 200%. I love E85.
I was running race alky (methanol) for a few months before E85. Some of the same precautions are a good idea. The last run of the day, get some heat in the motor. This might require leaning the mixture after racing, but that is good preventative precaution anyway.
|
|
|
Re: E-85 or Race Fuel
[Re: Fast Yeti]
#721730
06/11/10 09:24 PM
06/11/10 09:24 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
Master
|
Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
|
Quote:
Thanks Mike. I currently have a Malory 250 fuel pump. What fuel pump would you reccomend? So would you say that outside of the periodic jet changes from summer blend to winter blend that ther is really no other maintenance?
Tom there really isnt any more maintenance issues than the regular gas stuff... except when you race it you need to get the temps up to pull any moisture out of the oil... remember that its a alcohol base fuel and in any alcohol fuel it tries to absorb moisture... on your pump you need to make sure that it can flow 30% more volume than it did over gas... the ethanol isnt any where near as corrosive as methanol so the standard pumps will handle the E-85 but you just need the added volume
|
|
|
Re: E-85 or Race Fuel
[Re: Cheatham]
#721731
06/11/10 09:27 PM
06/11/10 09:27 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
Master
|
Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
|
Quote:
Who and where and how much for these e-85 testers??
Quick Fuels Tech sells them... they're cheap
|
|
|
Re: E-85 or Race Fuel
[Re: Fast Yeti]
#721734
06/11/10 10:28 PM
06/11/10 10:28 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
Master
|
Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
|
Quote:
In your opinion, does E-85 make as much power as race fuel. this may sound like a dumb question but where can I get a steel drum to keep the E-85?
Well on my engine with JUST the carb (changed to E-85) I went exactly the same ET 9.08 with both fuels... I still havent added any timing which most engines will want some added timing with the E-85... I expect to add about 4* of timing... maybe more, I dont know yet... in the end do I think it makes as much power as gas... yes... maybe a little more due to a few factors... and it can/does it at a MUCH CHEAPER price tag... so its a WIN WIN
|
|
|
Re: E-85 or Race Fuel
[Re: 440Jim]
#721742
06/12/10 10:43 AM
06/12/10 10:43 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852 KENTUCKY
69CHARGERMD
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,852
KENTUCKY
|
Is the E85 something you could buy a drum of for the season,,,check the blend with a tester like Mike mentioned,,,get your jetting dialed in for that particular blend,,,and forget about it ?
Would if require messing with the jetting ALL the time,,,or just when you get a new "batch" of fuel .... and have to figure out what the blend is.........?
|
|
|
Re: E-85 or Race Fuel
[Re: 6bblFLASH]
#721744
06/12/10 11:18 AM
06/12/10 11:18 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,142 Central New York
slippery440
Crybaby440
|
Crybaby440
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,142
Central New York
|
I switched to E85 and love it.Once you get the carb right you can leave it alone. Why some of you guys want to screw with mixing your own combanation of fuel is beyound me.To hit the right jetting and right air bleeds and keep the mix the same everytime would be hard. Go all the way or stay with gas and pay the 4 to 7 dollar a gallon mix fuel.
If the MODS did their job I would not be hitting the notify MOD button. LOL
|
|
|
|
|