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Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: Pyper70] #692241
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See, the hole just keeps getting deeper ! Told you to leave the friggin' things alone but n-o-o-o-o-o ...

Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: Stanton] #692242
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You will more than likely have aluminum and abrasive stuck in the assembly lube Edelbrock uses. Should have disassembled them. To do it now, you'll also need new valve seals because the seals will get trashed taking the valves out to clean them... So you might pull the psrings and using brake clean clean off the head of the valve, the seat, and the guide areas without removing the valve. As was said... this is part of why you here "have them corrected" at a shop instead of running them out of the box.


Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: Stanton] #692243
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See, the hole just keeps getting deeper ! Told you to leave the friggin' things alone but n-o-o-o-o-o ...




Why ya gotta be so mean?


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Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: Pyper70] #692244
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To do it now, you'll also need new valve seals because the seals will get trashed taking the valves out to clean them...




They're most likely umbrella seals and there's no reason you shouldn't be able to reuse them.

Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: moper] #692245
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You will more than likely have aluminum and abrasive stuck in the assembly lube Edelbrock uses. Should have disassembled them. To do it now, you'll also need new valve seals because the seals will get trashed taking the valves out to clean them... So you might pull the psrings and using brake clean clean off the head of the valve, the seat, and the guide areas without removing the valve. As was said... this is part of why you here "have them corrected" at a shop instead of running them out of the box.




Even though I shoved a wet rag and did all what I wrote before AND had a towel covering the valve train? I dont see how abrasive dust and aluminum would have gotten anywhere. Sure maybe very little...but I went through with brake cleaner and pressurized air through the head twice and taped it off and put a valve cover on.


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Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: Pyper70] #692246
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I would take them apart. Tootsie roll grit is unforgiving

Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: BSB67] #692247
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I would take them apart. Tootsie roll grit is unforgiving




Got it...I'll strip em today and clean em all up.


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Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: Pyper70] #692248
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I would take them apart. Tootsie roll grit is unforgiving




Got it...I'll strip em today and clean em all up.




VERY wize choice!! Remember, you still will have fine hot shavings get down in some areas that can't be seen (& they "stick" there), even though you stuff a wet rag into the ports, pulling them out & blowing compressed air in the valve area (when the valve is on the seat) is a BIG NO NO, you can/will force any tiny shavings around the seat area & they will stay there, then once the valve starts opening it'll most likely end up between the seats of the valve & fuse there, do you know what that means . Please do it "right" & disasemble them completely, then clean them very well before assembly.


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Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: joedust451] #692249
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The plug you want is either ND Q16PR-U11 or NGK NGKR5672A-8

Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #692250
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The plug you want is either ND Q16PR-U11 or NGK NGKR5672A-8




They didn't have a R5672....Said special order of 10 days and about $6.50 / plug

Got the factory cross reference for the Champion...the NGK BKR5E.

When I get to the States I'll buy 2 sets of the one you mentioned and have them on hand.

Thanks for the number


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Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: Pyper70] #692251
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Factory plugs are designed for stock heads.. Edelbrock heads require 3/4" reach plugs..

Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #692252
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The BKR5E are the 3/4" threads...for the 3/4" threaded Champions


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Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: Pyper70] #692253
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The valve stems shred the interior (sealing surface) if you remove them totally and pull the lock groove thru them. This would be why new seals come with the sleeve for the valve stem. They are not standard seals. I just buy the Edelbrocks for peace of mind.


Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
Re: Question on porting. **PICS** [Re: moper] #692254
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The valve stems shred the interior (sealing surface) if you remove them totally and pull the lock groove thru them. This would be why new seals come with the sleeve for the valve stem. They are not standard seals. I just buy the Edelbrocks for peace of mind.




So I could in theory just take the valve keepers off, remove the spring, push the valve a little off the seat, put in some carb spray and blow air in it, then dry it with a lint-free cloth and reassemble it. It'll take 3 weeks before I can get another set of seals.


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