STARTER AND HEADERS
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05/03/10 12:11 AM
05/03/10 12:11 AM
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cornet684me
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i have 68'dodge coronet with 440, headers and a stock starter, i have been restoring the car for over 2.5years, i had replaced the started 2years ago with a rebuilt auto zone oem unit, i have not had the car on the road driving yet, i have only crank the car in my garage and drove around the block couple of times probaly once a month, i have noticed now, once the car has run for several mins, when i turn off the car and try to crank the car, all i get is a click, click, then the 4 or 5th time, the car cranks, however today, i ran the car to normal temp, shut it off only got a click, click, click, it wld not start, i got under the hood and put a screw driver to arc on the starter with the key on, the car cranked, my question is, does this mean my starter is going bad? i am thinking the heat from the headers have fried the new starter? do i go back with a new stock starter and try to wrap with some type of heat wrap or go with the mini starter? i have a life time warranty on this starter and can get a new one with no charge
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Re: STARTER AND HEADERS
[Re: Kern Dog]
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05/03/10 06:29 AM
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TheMoparJunky
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If you can arc it with the screw driver and it cranks, it's probably everything in between. Solenoid? Main cables? Solenoid wiring? These cars operated for 40 years with the same old starter. But the wiring is getting tired(internal corrosion) I usually bump up main cables to 1 gauge, solenoid wiring to 10 gauge, and usually buy a new solenoid(if it's mounted elsewhere). This seems to be a very common and occuring problem nowadays it seems.
Back off the Mopar bandwagon-
Wannabe Millwright
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Re: STARTER AND HEADERS
[Re: terzmo]
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05/03/10 12:11 PM
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DaytonaTurbo
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sounds like the relay is bad...I had same problem
If you cross the relay and it starts/cranks...the starter must be good as power is getting there by jumping the relay
If it cranks over when you jump the pins with a screwdriver, the starter is fine, your problem is elsewhere. Try taking apart and cleaning/recrimping all connections and see if that helps.
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Re: STARTER AND HEADERS
[Re: Cudajon]
#686984
05/03/10 01:32 PM
05/03/10 01:32 PM
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terzmo
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The starter is getting hot which causes it to draw more current. Your relay or wires are just not up to it.
by jumping the relay, you are only eliminating the wires up to it...not to the starter...if the starter cranks it is showing all the wires associated from the relay to starter/solonoid are good
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Re: STARTER AND HEADERS
[Re: terzmo]
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05/03/10 11:50 PM
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cornet684me
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update, i crank the car today, got it to normal temp, when i cut the car off, i tried to crank again, just click, click, i got screwdriver again out, i tried at the relay, just a click, i tried at the starter just a click, click, i waited about 5mins, then i try screw driver on the relay, the car crank right up, so does this sound like the headers have fried my starter? i just need to change to a mini-starter?
Last edited by cornet684me; 05/03/10 11:56 PM.
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Re: STARTER AND HEADERS
[Re: cornet684me]
#686990
05/06/10 03:31 AM
05/06/10 03:31 AM
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HealthServices
Why would you even post that?
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Why would you even post that?
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update, i crank the car today, got it to normal temp, when i cut the car off, i tried to crank again, just click, click, i got screwdriver again out, i tried at the relay, just a click, i tried at the starter just a click, click, i waited about 5mins, then i try screw driver on the relay, the car crank right up, so does this sound like the headers have fried my starter? i just need to change to a mini-starter?
When it acts up, try this...
Try the screwdriver on the relay, with the ignition (key) off.
What do you get?
If it cranks, check your ignition timing.
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Re: STARTER AND HEADERS
[Re: Kern Dog]
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05/06/10 03:49 AM
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Why would you even post that?
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Why would you even post that?
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True, but I also remember the posts he had in Jan. What one types is not always what is happening.
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Re: STARTER AND HEADERS
[Re: HealthServices]
#686993
05/06/10 08:00 AM
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scratchnfotraction
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I have a heat sheild off a old style stock starter that came on my 440 out of a motor home I went mini starter and dont need it now it was a real pain with the center dump manny and head pipe as far as R&R goes with the sheild and old style starter IMO,mini starter and mini alt are the best thing I done putting the 440 in the 88 truck
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