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LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) #681838
04/27/10 02:25 PM
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Mopar performance part number P 4120464.. I need the EIGHT BOLTS for the crank... The ARP bolts hit the convertor and will NOT let it sit flat against the flexplate.. PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: nosboy] #681839
04/27/10 02:27 PM
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You could always grind the head of the bolts thinner.......


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Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: Dartsport540] #681840
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Common problem.

Here is the solution. Come in a pack of 6 so you will need to buy two packages of these. I will tell you that they are probably going to be too long, I just cut them down and they work great. The heads are wafer thin and clear everything. Been using these for years. It isn't such a bad idea to have a few extra anyway.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MRG-914/?rtype=10

Part number Mr Gasket 913 is a pack of 8 but is out of stock at Summit. These are relatively new to the market. Just the ticket.

MB

Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: HPMike] #681841
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dont the 8 bolt cranks take 1/2 thread bolts and the 6 bolt cranks take 7/16 thread bolts?

nope...7/16 also..according to the part number..

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Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: 70AARcuda] #681842
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dont the 8 bolt cranks take 1/2 thread bolts and the 6 bolt cranks take 7/16 thread bolts?

nope...7/16 also..according to the part number..





Not sure I understand your post. The ones I suggested are in fact 1/2"-which Hemi's and aftermarket 8 bolt cranks are.

MB

Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: HPMike] #681843
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I just went down to CAT and bought 8 grade 8 bolts. I put them in the mill and machined the heads thinner.Dave

Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: HPMike] #681844
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I bought the 914 bolts and took them to the band saw and made them .625 (uhl).. The problem that I MAY have run into is,,,,the shoulder is .200 from underneath the head to the start of the first thread.. The flex plate is .110 and the spacer plate for the midplate is .090.. That equals to .200 ( the space of the bolt shoulder.. It looks like I run out of threads and start to eat into the shoulder of the bolt with the first thread in the crankshaft.. Looking at the bolt threads from the head,, looking down the threads,, you see the DAMAGE from the rolled over thread eating the top edge of the rest of the threads on the way out !!! Is it a problem????? Probably NOT if I use the right kind of locktite and torque the bolts up to 100 or so!!! I'll have ARP MAKE ME a set of 1/2 X 20 X .625 (uhl) bolts and SOLVE the problem the next time I have to put in a new flexplate!!!!

Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: nosboy] #681845
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I bought the 914 bolts and took them to the band saw and made them .625 (uhl).. The problem that I MAY have run into is,,,,the shoulder is .200 from underneath the head to the start of the first thread.. The flex plate is .110 and the spacer plate for the midplate is .090.. That equals to .200 ( the space of the bolt shoulder.. It looks like I run out of threads and start to eat into the shoulder of the bolt with the first thread in the crankshaft.. Looking at the bolt threads from the head,, looking down the threads,, you see the DAMAGE from the rolled over thread eating the top edge of the rest of the threads on the way out !!! Is it a problem????? Probably NOT if I use the right kind of locktite and torque the bolts up to 100 or so!!! I'll have ARP MAKE ME a set of 1/2 X 20 X .625 (uhl) bolts and SOLVE the problem the next time I have to put in a new flexplate!!!!




Just use a thin "star" washer under the head of the bolt. I have done this before, works fine and still clears all converters.

MB

Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: HPMike] #681846
05/03/10 08:40 PM
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I have run into this for years. I don't have a lathe but I do have a bench grinder. I just go to the local hardware store and buy the right grade 8 bolts and then chuck the threaded end into my drill and grind the head down nice and evenly on the bench grinder. I have done this many times for myself and some buddies.


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Re: LOOKING for convertor/ crankshaft bolts (hemi) [Re: nosboy] #681847
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I bought the 914 bolts and took them to the band saw and made them .625




If you can cut the bolt with a band saw, that is one heck of a soft bolt.


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