Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: Garranimal]
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04/22/10 01:21 PM
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Same as the factory mini. Actually I think it is the factory short mini not the long.
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: Garranimal]
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04/22/10 01:46 PM
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Comparison between a stock mini and something like the Robbmc starter. click to see larger
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
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04/22/10 01:49 PM
04/22/10 01:49 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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Got pictures?
not here. It's more for bolt/wrench clearance. It's on the bottom of the case where the lower bolt mounts
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: Garranimal]
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04/22/10 02:33 PM
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Brandon made a bulk purchase of the Nippon-Denso mini-starters, good value. We put one on our 440. Be sure to replace the shim as well.. Just my $0.01..
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: Garranimal]
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04/22/10 09:15 PM
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I have been pleased with my purchases from the source EXCEPT for the two mini starters I bought. Both have the same problem with not working until the engine cools. One is on a 496 stroker and one is on a basically stock 360 LA. The 360 is a drag car. The problem was so bad that I actually went back to the stock starter on it.
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: rbstroker]
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04/23/10 09:00 AM
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I have been pleased with my purchases from the source EXCEPT for the two mini starters I bought. Both have the same problem with not working until the engine cools. One is on a 496 stroker and one is on a basically stock 360 LA. The 360 is a drag car. The problem was so bad that I actually went back to the stock starter on it.
OH SNAP!! My source starter is doing the same thing. I was getting ready to change the battery cable, (4 gauge with battery in the trunk) and I wondered if some,part,all, of it might be the starter.
Anybody else experience heat soak with the source starter on a regular basis?
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: Von]
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04/23/10 09:23 AM
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I have been pleased with my purchases from the source EXCEPT for the two mini starters I bought. Both have the same problem with not working until the engine cools. One is on a 496 stroker and one is on a basically stock 360 LA. The 360 is a drag car. The problem was so bad that I actually went back to the stock starter on it.
OH SNAP!! My source starter is doing the same thing. I was getting ready to change the battery cable, (4 gauge with battery in the trunk) and I wondered if some,part,all, of it might be the starter.
Anybody else experience heat soak with the source starter on a regular basis?
I had the same problem w/ an auto parts starter. Try and shield the starter some if you can. The Hooker super comps I have now don't seem to come as close so I hope I won't have the same issue. FWIW a hammer and a jack handle will fix the "no-start" issue.
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: Lee446]
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04/23/10 11:53 AM
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i pulled a starter of a junkyard '96 Ram with a 5.2 and currently have it on my 413. looks the same as my old 440source and works fine.
Last edited by fury413rb; 04/23/10 11:54 AM.
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: Lee446]
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04/23/10 12:10 PM
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I bought a 440Source starter about a year ago. It works fine, but I am sure it is not a Denso, does not look at all like it. I went to O'Reilly and bought a new "Optima" for $89 and it is the exact same, made in China starter as my Source starter.
haha I just got one form Advanced yesterday..made in mexico.
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: Silverbullet2]
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04/23/10 07:44 PM
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Can you please post a couple pics of the area that you had to grind down (before and after if possible) to get the starter to fit better? With the heat problems, are these ceramic coated headers involved?
71 Challenger RT 440 / 727 / 8.75
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: mojavered]
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04/24/10 10:35 AM
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My big block has ceramic coated headers, and has major heat soak issues. The 360 had a heat shield with no success. It was so bad that the car would not crank in the staging lanes. Cranked fine when cold. No problem with the stock starter on the 360.
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Re: 440 source mini-starter
[Re: mojavered]
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04/24/10 05:13 PM
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Can you please post a couple pics of the area that you had to grind down (before and after if possible) to get the starter to fit better? With the heat problems, are these ceramic coated headers involved?
the new one I bought has a smaller top, not as much casing so I won't need to grind it. It was more to get a wrench on it easier not for fit.
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