Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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So I have a new starter relay, a new neutral safety switch in the transmission (single wire), ran all new wires from the switch to the relay, relay to the starter button, and it still starts in any gear. Anyone have any ideas???
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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I'm not sure what lever is in the transmission...I will need to call John Cope and ask. I tried the test light and got no light any way I tried it.
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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The single post NSS will work just fine with the newer roostercomb.
A simple test with a meter or test light will show if the NSS is staying grounded in gears other than P and N.
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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So I put the test light on the NSS and I dont get a light in any gear...but it will still start in all gears.
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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With the test light hooked up I can touch the outside of the NSS and I get a light, but no light on the terminal where the wire hooks up to.
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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I have the switch thats in the middle of the pictue. So the car will still start with the NSS disconnected. It just seems like my wiring is bypassing the starter relay. I have the wire going from the NSS to the G on the relay, then a wire from the I on the relay to my starter button. What else am I missing???
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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Thats what I thought too...so I got a new starter relay and ran a new wire from the NSS to the starter relay...same issues...
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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I guess thats my next step...Thanks all!!!
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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Don't bother pulling the pan, if "the car will still start with the NSS disconnected" as you stated earlier the problem isn't in the transmission.
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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unplug the wire at starter relay and if doesn't crank, I think you found it wire is simply grounded somehow, peeled or whatever...
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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yea I read that, but if cranks without the wire plugged, is still starter relay related... if doesn't crank with wire unplugged at relay, then is still the wire... no other posibility that I'm aware at least
( both test with NSS unplugged )
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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It will crank with the wire plugging in or not and in any gear. I'm thinking that somehow i'm bypassing the NSS...any ideas about that? I have a 6 switch Painless Wiring box. The "I" wire from the starter relay goes to the starter button in the Painless box and the other wire from the NSS goes to the "G" on the starter relay. Thats about it...
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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear
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This whole scenerio defies all logic regarding a NSS and/or the relay!! The ONLY engineered way the starter can get juice is if the relay grounds . The only other way is if the middle wire on the relay (the one that goes to the starter solenoid small terminal)gets 12 volts. If there's no wire on the ground (G) side of the relay, then that tells me the relay is continuosly grounded. Yet a new relay doesn't fix the problem!! Something is REALLY strange.
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