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Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? #663409 04/06/10 10:41 PM 04/06/10 10:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 647 Pa. 3 340cpe OP mopar
340cpe OP mopar 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 647 Pa.	I am looking for the CORRECT engine harness for a 71 superbee 383 4-barrel holley with a 4-speed, point ignition. This has the electric retard on the distributor vac. advance and it also has an idle solenoid. Any suggestions who may carry this harness? Thanks for any help.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: 340cpe] #663410 04/06/10 11:07 PM 04/06/10 11:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	YearOne Engine harness, 1971 Plymouth and Dodge B-body 383/440 models except 6-pack. reproduction.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: Snoopy] #663411 04/07/10 12:07 AM 04/07/10 12:07 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada NV69B7RR master
NV69B7RR master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada	The Year Ones are the best made by M&H exclusivly for them. You can get 20% off right now too. Their prices are about the same as anywhere else especially with the discount. 72 Demon 340 71 Duster 340 Resto https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: 340cpe] #663412 04/07/10 12:54 AM 04/07/10 12:54 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 242 midwest I intragration enthusiast
intragration enthusiast I Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 242 midwest	I purchased several of the M&H's through Year One, they are top quality. One was a 440-6 modified for electronic ignition, it looks practically factory.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: intragration] #663413 04/07/10 07:32 AM 04/07/10 07:32 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	stay away from bill & rose evans' wiring harness, mine sucked on my a12 superbee plus it isnt correct and the leads out of the bulkhead came out twice making me pull my hair out trying to diagnosis the problem.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? #663414 04/07/10 01:16 PM 04/07/10 01:16 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 408 Manhattan, IL SixPackRT mopar
SixPackRT mopar Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 408 Manhattan, IL	x 2 . Never had an experience with Evans harness's but would suggest the M&H harness to anyone from my experiences.They look original in most every way. Scott 70 Coronet RT 440+6 64 Dodge 330 - Future Hemi Clone 17 Challenger Hellcat - Green Go Driver 86 Buick T-Type Turbo V-6

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: SixPackRT] #663415 04/07/10 01:46 PM 04/07/10 01:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 837 Highland, Michigan 1972Rallye super stock
1972Rallye super stock Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 837 Highland, Michigan	I don't think Bill Evans even makes engine harnesses. Year One is the only outlet to get them through that I know of. The harness I got for my '72 was perfect.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: 1972Rallye] #663416 04/07/10 07:18 PM 04/07/10 07:18 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: I don't think Bill Evans even makes engine harnesses. Year One is the only outlet to get them through that I know of. The harness I got for my '72 was perfect. wrong. my engine harness is from evans, and it sucks and doesnt look correct at all, especially the ballast resistor connectors. his customer service stinks too! 5913002-115-1530_IMG.JPG (123 downloads)

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? #663417 04/07/10 08:03 PM 04/07/10 08:03 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon D Dougsmopars top fuel
Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	I got mine from Hardens Muscle car world. It was made by Evans. It works but not correct. Wrong color fuseable link, some plugs are too long. It worked and looks ok but if your looking for concours correct i'd look at M&H

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: Dougsmopars] #663418 04/07/10 09:38 PM 04/07/10 09:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 647 Pa. 3 340cpe OP mopar
340cpe OP mopar 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 647 Pa.	Thanks everyone Year one it is!!!

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? #663419 04/08/10 07:52 AM 04/08/10 07:52 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 837 Highland, Michigan 1972Rallye super stock
1972Rallye super stock Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 837 Highland, Michigan	Quote: Quote: I don't think Bill Evans even makes engine harnesses. Year One is the only outlet to get them through that I know of. The harness I got for my '72 was perfect. wrong. my engine harness is from evans, and it sucks and doesnt look correct at all, especially the ballast resistor connectors. his customer service stinks too! Your right... It was dash harnesses I was thinking of. Maybe I should have said he shouldn't make engine harnesses!

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: Dougsmopars] #663420 04/08/10 02:31 PM 04/08/10 02:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,743 central new york pettyblue440 master
pettyblue440 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,743 central new york	I've had a couple from evans with no issues

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: pettyblue440] #663421 04/08/10 03:01 PM 04/08/10 03:01 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 863 Pinelands , NJ J joelson6 super stock
joelson6 super stock J Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 863 Pinelands , NJ	me too Last edited by joelson6; 04/11/10 09:36 PM.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: joelson6] #663422 04/10/10 12:38 AM 04/10/10 12:38 AM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 32 pittsburgh, pa S shadango member
shadango member S Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 32 pittsburgh, pa	There seem to be a lot of folks complaining about bad connections,especially at the bulkhead, if you google Bill Evans wiring. I bought my harness a year ago and had issues almost immediately with the connectors pulling out of the plastic plugs at the ballast...no problem, there...I just removed the plugs and used the metal connectors only. I also found that the wires at the coil were a tad too short, but I made it work OK. But then i had issues where the car would shut down for no reason and I found two bad connections at the bulkhead....wires just pulled out...I soldered those in and sent an email to them, at which point they said send the harness back so they could go over it....But I figure I found my issue and decided to move on...didnt want to have the car dead in the water. Well, now I am having the same issue again this season....contacted them and they told me to send it back for them to examine. On one hand, good support as far as looking at it a year later...on the other hand, have had issues from day one. So for me the jury is out. I purchased a new harness to avoid the issue of possible harness problems......so not real happy. No idea how long it will take to get my harness back....but figured I best have the, go over the harness before looking for issues elsewhere and they agreed. I sent it back via next day air after being told I shouldnt wait because they will be kneee deep in shows soon....then found out today that the main guy is out of town...so I wasted next day air fees.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: shadango] #663423 04/11/10 09:20 PM 04/11/10 09:20 PM
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340cpe OP mopar 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 647 Pa.	Still appears that year one is the way to go. I have heard a few good things about evans harnesses but probably more bad than good. My main concern is that I want a harness as original, i.e. the distributor vac advance and the idle solenoid, I know at carlisle last summer bill told me that his harness was not equipped for the idle solenoid so I will try a year one harness. Thanks again.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: 340cpe] #663424 04/11/10 09:43 PM 04/11/10 09:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 863 Pinelands , NJ J joelson6 super stock
joelson6 super stock J Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 863 Pinelands , NJ	that's it! idle solenoid. man i've been scratching my head at this wondering where it was / am i missing something. from the sounds of it, I WAS MISSING something.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: shadango] #663425 04/12/10 09:45 PM 04/12/10 09:45 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: There seem to be a lot of folks complaining about bad connections,especially at the bulkhead, if you google Bill Evans wiring. I bought my harness a year ago and had issues almost immediately with the connectors pulling out of the plastic plugs at the ballast...no problem, there...I just removed the plugs and used the metal connectors only. I also found that the wires at the coil were a tad too short, but I made it work OK. But then i had issues where the car would shut down for no reason and I found two bad connections at the bulkhead....wires just pulled out...I soldered those in and sent an email to them, at which point they said send the harness back so they could go over it....But I figure I found my issue and decided to move on...didnt want to have the car dead in the water. Well, now I am having the same issue again this season....contacted them and they told me to send it back for them to examine. On one hand, good support as far as looking at it a year later...on the other hand, have had issues from day one. So for me the jury is out. I purchased a new harness to avoid the issue of possible harness problems......so not real happy. No idea how long it will take to get my harness back....but figured I best have the, go over the harness before looking for issues elsewhere and they agreed. I sent it back via next day air after being told I shouldnt wait because they will be kneee deep in shows soon....then found out today that the main guy is out of town...so I wasted next day air fees. same exact situation with my harness for my A12uperbee, my car wouldn't stay running. thank God for VCODE who's a electrical guru.came over and found 2 bad connections on my evans harness. sent him a email and wanted it back. i told him that its brand new an send me out another and i'll send the bad one back. didn;t want to tie up my car for that long on a time period. i never sent it back, fixed it and i am buying a yearone harness and no more sales to Evans. poor customer service IMO.i'm tired of dealing with these small mom pop shops with no good return policies.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: joelson6] #663426 04/14/10 10:24 PM 04/14/10 10:24 PM
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340cpe OP mopar 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 647 Pa.	Well talk about fast shipping!! I received my harness today and as everyone said it looks super. Although I do believe there is something missing. My car is a four speed car with a 383 and a holley carb. The manual trans cars have an idle solenoid with two leads that routed off of the rear of the carb, they actually attach to one of the vac. diaphram screws. Well one lead is ignition power to the solenoid and the other is for distributor vac. advance ground when the throttle is closed. Well this harness has no connection for either. According to the wiring diagram in the service manual this is a manual trans only application. Auto trans have no idle solenoid and the wire for the distributor ground comes right off of the curb idle screw located on the front of the carb. This harness is PERFECT for the auto trans setup but I am certainly missing something for the four speed setup. Can anyone help?? Possibly a picture of an original setup? I can make it work but I want it to appear proper as this is a numbers matching car. My research shows that E and B body applications are the same. Thanks

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: 340cpe] #663427 04/15/10 12:47 PM 04/15/10 12:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 308 Turneffe B BJohnson enthusiast
BJohnson enthusiast B Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 308 Turneffe	I would suggest you call Tom at M&H and discuss this with him, if the harness is incorrect he will make it right. Do not talk to anyone except Tom. If it needs to be reworked I am sure he will handle shipping both ways.

Re: Who Supplies the Best Engine Wire Harnesses? [Re: pettyblue440] #663428 04/16/10 09:20 PM 04/16/10 09:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,294 Under the big sky S stateline pro stock
stateline pro stock S Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,294 Under the big sky	Bill just made two for me - one was special sized to go from a 440 to a 1953 Hudson body, the other a standard 70 big block , both nice items , there was no noticable difference between Bills and the year Ones I got.

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