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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: 72chrgrally] #650105
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I'm confused.... was the old combination (unported Edelbrocks, sub 9:1 motor, the one that made 622 HP) the one that ran the 10.96 in your sig? & your car weighs around 3000 lbs race weight (assuming you weigh 180 lbs)? (2820 car weight) Is that all correct?

& now the new motor makes 760, with same off shelf Comp cam (if I'm reading all this right) & is going in same 3000 lb car?

If I've got all that right... will be interesting to see what car picks up @ track VS old combo.

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: RyanJ] #650106
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Way Cool, Congrats Bill and Dave

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: 72chrgrally] #650107
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here is a teaser picture.1 of the earlier pulls.

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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: RyanJ] #650108
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I'm confused.... was the old combination (unported Edelbrocks, sub 9:1 motor, the one that made 622 HP) the one that ran the 10.96 in your sig? & your car weighs around 3000 lbs race weight (assuming you weigh 180 lbs)? (2820 car weight) Is that all correct?





Yes.

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: WILD BILL] #650109
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wow way to go bill. is there any chance you could do a back to back test between race gas and alcohol?just wondering what the power diffrence would be.well it looks like i just better keep my car at home this year lol. Mopar65


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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: mopar65] #650110
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Congrats Bill! Can't wait to see what the car runs at the track, that will be the real dyno session.


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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: WILD BILL] #650111
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I'm confused.... was the old combination (unported Edelbrocks, sub 9:1 motor, the one that made 622 HP) the one that ran the 10.96 in your sig? & your car weighs around 3000 lbs race weight (assuming you weigh 180 lbs)? (2820 car weight) Is that all correct?





Yes.




Good I'm not as confused as I thought I was..... LOL

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: ProSport] #650112
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Peak hp @ 7400 with that cam and cylinder head???

Amazing.

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: RyanJ] #650113
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Bill, great numbers! and again with who is working on it, I would expect nothing less! You and me in 10.00 first round, Be Easy on me!

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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: jim sciortino] #650114
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Is this corrected to STP (Standard Temperature Pressure) or is it the J1349 standard? Just out of curiosity--What were the BSFC's, BMEP, BSAC's? Honestly that is one stout motor for sure-all things considered. You are making 1.7 HP/ci! J.Rob


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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: BigDog68Dart] #650115
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Congrats Bill...going to be cool..........

Question...

What was your OLD MPH in the 1/4

Was that 622 HP on GAS

congrats....

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: WILD BILL] #650116
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Wow nice numbers guys! You will make all the naysayers look bad when your ripping off some 9.30-40's this summer! What camshaft are you using? So this was done on alcohol? I do remember being impressed of the power you eeked-out on dyno with the original motor.

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: RyanJ] #650117
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I'm confused.... was the old combination (unported Edelbrocks, sub 9:1 motor, the one that made 622 HP) the one that ran the 10.96 in your sig? & your car weighs around 3000 lbs race weight (assuming you weigh 180 lbs)? (2820 car weight) Is that all correct?

& now the new motor makes 760, with same off shelf Comp cam (if I'm reading all this right) & is going in same 3000 lb car?

If I've got all that right... will be interesting to see what car picks up @ track VS old combo.


i can't wait to see what it runs

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: BigDog68Dart] #650118
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Bill, great numbers! and again with who is working on it, I would expect nothing less! You and me in 10.00 first round, Be Easy on me!


Dang Larry, you beat me to it, Nice number's Bill, may have to drag that old scuzzy looking 440 block out that I just got and start dreaming.


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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: HardcoreB] #650119
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impressive guys, it sounds like you will be making some license runs.



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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: Thumperdart] #650120
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Awsome numbers!!!

I honestly didnt know you were runnin BOOZE.

Thats gonna get the blue beast haulin.....

KAsey

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: RyanJ] #650121
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I'm confused.... was the old combination (unported Edelbrocks, sub 9:1 motor, the one that made 622 HP) the one that ran the 10.96 in your sig? & your car weighs around 3000 lbs race weight (assuming you weigh 180 lbs)? (2820 car weight) Is that all correct?





Yes.




Good I'm not as confused as I thought I was..... LOL






To be clear he ran the 10.96 @ 540 HP

The Same said motor was later ran on Alky on the Dyno and made 622 HP with no track ETS mike.

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: WILD BILL] #650122
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OK, here's the results

759 hp @ 7400 rpm

603 ft lbs @ 5800 rpm.


Best thing is no leaks and it didn't blow



WOW!
Those are some serious numbers. That should move your weight car down the track at an impressive rate.

7400 rpm = good flowing heads and not big CID
I am really surprised by the rpm (TQ & HP) with that cam.

Gaining that much power from the old 622 hp engine, should be worth almost 1 second in the 1/4 mile, and 1.5 from the 540 hp. You will feel that!

Look for some mid 9's


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Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: Sport440] #650123
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To be clear he ran the 10.96 @ 540 HP

The Same said motor was later ran on Alky on the Dyno and made 622 HP with no track ETS mike.




I just ran some numbers at Wallace racing. Was it a 10.96 @ 130 MPH?

Re: Hitting the DYNO tomorrow ! What's it gonna make now?? [Re: 440Jim] #650124
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It was amazing watching this happen today. 60 horse difference, swapping nothing but to alky. Watched it and helped hold the carb for the 2 inch APD Black Widow spacer. 60 horse switching to jungle juice!! I don't think the engine ever went above 143 degrees ! Thanks for letting me be a fly on the wall, guys..

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