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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: MR_P_BODY] #644959 03/20/10 05:49 PM 03/20/10 05:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	111 mph is enough to tap high 11's with good hook and 60 times. Ron

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644960 03/20/10 07:50 PM 03/20/10 07:50 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas 1 1AARCUDA OP mopar
1AARCUDA OP mopar 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas	my 60' time was 1.87 Thats about what i was doing going mid 13, maybe i did some spinning running on old slicks too might have to buy new ones. I did have 14 lbs in them same as the old 440, should I have gone with less? 1970 AAR CUDA 1970 Super Bee 383 Auto 1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd 1968 Satellite 500 Stroker 1986 Shelby GLHS 1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto 1996 Indy Pace Truck 1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644961 03/20/10 08:10 PM 03/20/10 08:10 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan B1Fish540 master
B1Fish540 master Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan	Quote: Today im going to see if all my hard work and money is going to payoff, I dropped a 500 stroker in my 68 Satellite and going racing tonight to see how it goes, with my old 440 it ran a best of 13.22 102mph, nothing has changed but the new motor, anyone care to guess what i'll run, old 440 about 380 horses, new 500 suppose to be around 550. kinda nervous and excited at the same time At that mph, you may not be making 550 HP, as trap speed is the indicator of horse power. You still could break into the 11s, imho. In my experience a 9" tire was not enough, i would try to get a 10" tire under there and, also, be sure your convertor is right for that combo.

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: B1Fish540] #644962 03/20/10 08:24 PM 03/20/10 08:24 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,562 Clinton Twp, Michigan DerickS pro stock
DerickS pro stock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,562 Clinton Twp, Michigan	What converter is in it again??

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644963 03/20/10 08:44 PM 03/20/10 08:44 PM
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1AARCUDA OP mopar 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas	2400 stall, I do have a 4500 stall but needs to be refreshed. 1970 AAR CUDA 1970 Super Bee 383 Auto 1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd 1968 Satellite 500 Stroker 1986 Shelby GLHS 1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto 1996 Indy Pace Truck 1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644964 03/20/10 09:06 PM 03/20/10 09:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,093 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,093 Benton, IL.	Quote: 2400 stall, I do have a 4500 stall but needs to be refreshed. You will need to change a lot of things in the drive train and rear suspension if you start hitting the rear tires with that 500" spinning at 4,500 off the line. What does your combo weigh? Do you have the tranny, drivshaft and joints, and diff that can handle that torque with sticky tires? I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I've been there, done that. Your 111mph shows the potential, while the 12.5 and overheat is an indication of some of the difficulties that lie ahead. Master, again and still

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644965 03/20/10 09:50 PM 03/20/10 09:50 PM
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DerickS pro stock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,562 Clinton Twp, Michigan	Quote: 2400 stall, I do have a 4500 stall but needs to be refreshed. I dont think that a ton more converter would be what you need its just that when you put alot more torque to converters sometimes they get real ineffecient and do weird things. You said it kinda hooked, did you look at what it flashed to on launch?? It could be slipping and leaving alot on the table

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644966 03/20/10 10:38 PM 03/20/10 10:38 PM
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1AARCUDA OP mopar 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas	all my suspension is stock stuff, driveshaft,U joints, spring are from a wrecked out 69 GTX, pinion snubber etc.... Its a street car that I am gradually making more race. car weighs 3600 with me Dont really know what you mean by flash launch, not a experience racer 1970 AAR CUDA 1970 Super Bee 383 Auto 1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd 1968 Satellite 500 Stroker 1986 Shelby GLHS 1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto 1996 Indy Pace Truck 1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644967 03/21/10 01:08 PM 03/21/10 01:08 PM
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1AARCUDA OP mopar 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas	Thanks for all the advice and info, if I break in the 11's I will post it. I have a list of things to do. Once all the snow melts away here in Dallas, isnt it suppose to be spring now? 1970 AAR CUDA 1970 Super Bee 383 Auto 1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd 1968 Satellite 500 Stroker 1986 Shelby GLHS 1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto 1996 Indy Pace Truck 1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644968 03/21/10 02:08 PM 03/21/10 02:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada	Did I miss it... .... what cam are you running? I would say once tuned and you get used to the car's new setup I am willing to bet you will drop below 12.00s.... CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644969 03/21/10 03:08 PM 03/21/10 03:08 PM
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1AARCUDA OP mopar 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas	509 lift 292 duration Mopar Performance cam in one of them crate motors 1970 AAR CUDA 1970 Super Bee 383 Auto 1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd 1968 Satellite 500 Stroker 1986 Shelby GLHS 1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto 1996 Indy Pace Truck 1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644970 03/21/10 05:56 PM 03/21/10 05:56 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,562 Clinton Twp, Michigan DerickS pro stock
DerickS pro stock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,562 Clinton Twp, Michigan	Quote: all my suspension is stock stuff, driveshaft,U joints, spring are from a wrecked out 69 GTX, pinion snubber etc.... Its a street car that I am gradually making more race. car weighs 3600 with me Dont really know what you mean by flash launch, not a experience racer [/quote If you bring the car up to a certain RPM say 1200 on the brake before you launch what does it rev to when you flat pedal it to take off? You said it was a 2400 stall is that what you rev it to against the brakes on launch?

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644971 03/22/10 09:02 AM 03/22/10 09:02 AM
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carolinacuda member C Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 150 South Carolina, United States	well there are alot of factors we need to know to see what you should run. My mild 440 in a 74cuda with stock susp run 11.50's @116-117mph. I run a 1.55-1.58 60ft. 3500 stall 3.91 gears. Your cam should get you in 11's. What heads, Int, carb, gears, fuel system, tires are you runnin? Something not right here? Maybe starving for fuel?Like was said maybe not 550hp. Timing should be at least 36 degrees all in by 2000 rpm. My opinion. Good luck!

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: carolinacuda] #644972 03/22/10 09:14 AM 03/22/10 09:14 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Well your giving up at least .4 in the 60 foot at least and that is just there. any improvment in the 60 foot is usually X 2 in the quarter. so if you go 1.65 short times 1.87 - 1.65 = .22 X 2 = .44 1.65's would still be poor for your car by the way. so a 4000 stall, 38 deg total, bring up the shift points, work on rthe cooling a set of caltracs and mono springs good slicks and 11.5's with no problems Probably more as you work it all out1 http://www.calvertracing.com/ get it from wes with hes 90/10 front shocks http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/catrbarsy1.html

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: Dodgem] #644973 03/22/10 09:32 AM 03/22/10 09:32 AM
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BobR master B Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,165 Left Coast	Timed by ear? Presently, you are somewhat short of 550 HP but with some expert tuning you may find it. My 530 HP 440 3400# Dart went 10.90's at 124.

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644974 03/22/10 10:21 AM 03/22/10 10:21 AM
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1AARCUDA OP mopar 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas	Well I have figured out the cooling, I had no thermastat or a water restrictor, Fixed that with a old thermastat removed the center and drilled a few holes around the base. I will work on timing next with a light! 1970 AAR CUDA 1970 Super Bee 383 Auto 1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd 1968 Satellite 500 Stroker 1986 Shelby GLHS 1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto 1996 Indy Pace Truck 1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644975 03/22/10 10:42 AM 03/22/10 10:42 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 254 PA MrMopar95 Panhandler
MrMopar95 Panhandler Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 254 PA	dont waste any money on running high octane fuel, get somthing middle grade at the pump, your middle and high grades at the pump are usually a cleaner fuel than lowest grade. only diff. but for power, not a thing Nick Bowman 1970 Plymouth Duster - "Footbrake" Red-or-Dead 2X Pittsburgh Raceway Park Points Champion

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644976 03/27/10 10:46 PM 03/27/10 10:46 PM
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1AARCUDA OP mopar 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas	Went to Pinks All Out car ran much better, 12.06 112.00 Maybe 11's soons. 1970 AAR CUDA 1970 Super Bee 383 Auto 1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd 1968 Satellite 500 Stroker 1986 Shelby GLHS 1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto 1996 Indy Pace Truck 1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644977 03/27/10 11:18 PM 03/27/10 11:18 PM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Went to Pinks All Out car ran much better, 12.06 112.00 Maybe 11's soons. Nice going. What was your 60 ? Ron

Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker [Re: 1AARCUDA] #644978 03/27/10 11:24 PM 03/27/10 11:24 PM
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1AARCUDA OP mopar 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 502 North Texas	60' was 1.715 Uncle Sam owes me some money and going to buy some new slicks. The ones I have are pretty much done with. 1970 AAR CUDA 1970 Super Bee 383 Auto 1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd 1968 Satellite 500 Stroker 1986 Shelby GLHS 1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto 1996 Indy Pace Truck 1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker

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