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UPDATED INFO : PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT #643889
03/18/10 10:42 AM
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Ok my drive shaft that came w/ the car will not quite fit or it fits w/ minimal play (3/8 in max). So I called the local drive shaft shop and they told to measure from tailshaft seal to face of diff yoke (47 and 5/8). I take it down there and they call me and say it already is the correct length and the issue is w/ my yoke tjat it does not slide in far enough and there must be something wrong w/ the splines (thay had an output shaft there and my yoke did not slaide all the way on and theirs did, I saw it). I say ok replace w/ new yoke and balance ($210). I get home and it is exactly the way it was w/ the prior yoke. I marked my old yoke and the new one and go in the same length and both seem to bottom out. Any suggestions, shorten driveshaft?? - I have not called the shop yet to let them know whats going on.

UPDATED
I took the driveshaft to Arizona driveshaft at lunch and showed them my marks I made on the yolk and where it bottoms out they are going to shorten to make it 3/4-1 inch total. AND they are going to refund my $ for the yolk I bought from them. So a pat on the back goes to them for making things right w/ out any questions.
Also thx to every one who responded. I'll see some of you at MATS (don't know if the car will make i again, its close real close but not quite).

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Re: PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT [Re: 512 VALIANT] #643890
03/18/10 11:26 AM
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Id try calling or emailing Dr Diff, hes got a way thats pretty slick and seems to work everytime.

Re: PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT [Re: quick77rt ] #643891
03/18/10 11:45 AM
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Thx quick77rt - I called the driveshaft company and they are being very cool about it. They said bring it back down we'll put your yoke back on it and and shorten shaft 1" and rebalance.

Re: PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT [Re: quick77rt ] #643892
03/18/10 11:53 AM
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If you have 3/8 with the suspension in droop then you might be OK as is. I have had some cars where you had to put weight on the rear tires/compress the rear suspension in order to get the driveshaft in.

Either way, you need to put the car at ride height and take the actual yolk you are going to use, shove it in the trans all the way and pull it out 3/4 - 1" ( I prefer 3/4") and measure C/C on the U-Joints. Make sure the U-Joint cups are horizontal when you do this so pinion angle will not skew your measurment.

I say you are good as is if compressing the rear suspension pulls the DS out of the trans more and allows installation / removal.

Sure it might be better if you shorten it slightly, but only if measuring the correct way confirms this.


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Re: PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT [Re: 512 VALIANT] #643893
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Quote:

Thx quick77rt - I called the driveshaft company and they are being very cool about it. They said bring it back down we'll put your yoke back on it and and shorten shaft 1" and rebalance.




NNOOoooooo...... 1" would be too much!


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Re: PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT [Re: Ron Silva] #643894
03/18/10 11:59 AM
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Quote:

If you have 3/8 with the suspension in droop then you might be OK as is. I have had some cars where you had to put weight on the rear tires/compress the rear suspension in order to get the driveshaft in.

Either way, you need to put the car at ride height and take the actual yolk you are going to use, shove it in the trans all the way and pull it out 3/4 - 1" ( I prefer 3/4") and measure C/C on the U-Joints. Make sure the U-Joint cups are horizontal when you do this so pinion angle will not skew your measurment.

I say you are good as is if compressing the rear suspension pulls the DS out of the trans more and allows installation / removal.

Sure it might be better if you shorten it slightly, but only if measuring the correct way confirms this.




I have the rear diff on jack stands (ladder bar car) and the front of the car is supported by jack stands on the frame rails. The shop said that is what I needed to do to get correct measurments. Do you agree w/ them?

Re: PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT [Re: 512 VALIANT] #643895
03/18/10 12:27 PM
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Dr Diff sent me the driveshaft for dummies kit, a yolk.

Told me to push it in and let it compact the seal, measure center to center where the u joints would go and I think he said subtrack an inch. (Knowing me I left somthing out so I would ask him)

This was with the car at race weight with everything adjusted that would impact ride height, ect.

I had my tunnel out and watched a couple minor launches, when the rear shocks extend on launch its right where it should be and I used grease and its easy to see how much travel the shaft had overall.

No Dr Diff is not god but he also nailed my correct master cylinder for my disc setup...

If your not happy with the answers your shop is giving you, hes easy to find.

Good luck....and yes nothing would suck worse then finding out its too short and you need a new tube.

Re: PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT [Re: 512 VALIANT] #643896
03/18/10 12:30 PM
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yup. rear suspension needs to be loaded for a proper measurement. no need for the car to be level, as long as the rear suspension is under load. now, if you're going to start measuring pinion angles and what not, then yea, make sure the car is level.


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Re: UPDATED INFO : PROBLEM WITH DRIVE SHAFT [Re: 512 VALIANT] #643897
03/18/10 05:13 PM
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Ok my drive shaft that came w/ the car will not quite fit or it fits w/ minimal play (3/8 in max). So I called the local drive shaft shop and they told to measure from tailshaft seal to face of diff yoke (47 and 5/8). I take it down there and they call me and say it already is the correct length and the issue is w/ my yoke tjat it does not slide in far enough and there must be something wrong w/ the splines (thay had an output shaft there and my yoke did not slaide all the way on and theirs did, I saw it). I say ok replace w/ new yoke and balance ($210). I get home and it is exactly the way it was w/ the prior yoke. I marked my old yoke and the new one and go in the same length and both seem to bottom out. Any suggestions, shorten driveshaft?? - I have not called the shop yet to let them know whats going on.

UPDATED
I took the driveshaft to Arizona driveshaft at lunch and showed them my marks I made on the yolk and where it bottoms out they are going to shorten to make it 3/4-1 inch total. AND they are going to refund my $ for the yolk I bought from them. So a pat on the back goes to them for making things right w/ out any questions.
Also thx to every one who responded. I'll see some of you at MATS (don't know if the car will make i again, its close real close but not quite).




SORRY see updated paragraph - thx







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