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440 Source Stealth Heads #642793
03/17/10 07:47 AM
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Ok after waiting a year porting and flowing my Stealth Heads! I thought I was ready to bolt them on. FOLLOWING the directions in the box from 440 Source, buying correct gaskets, changing to 928 springs and 10 degree retainers, following the prescribed #torque. I was ready to set the valve lash. It was fine until setting the Intakes there wasn't enough clearance for the 3/8 pushrod. Now what? Call 440 Source and the answer is!!!! Oh didn't anyone tell you when you bought them you have to clearance the intakes??????? NO NO and NO. Not on the install sheet, not in the add and certainly not when I order. Advertisement read great heads bolt on the power. THANKS 440 Source!!!!!!!!!! Is there anything else I need to know before I fire and make a run down the track??????

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: iron6] #642794
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Yeah, check everything twice before assembly. No aftermarket part is " bolt on " and go in my experance. Check it all. Then check it again. And if in doubt call the tec line.


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Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: yella71] #642795
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I agree, no part is bolt on with out checking. Especially aftermarket.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: ireland383] #642796
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Right....and the aftermarket is not accountable for quality.

More Kool aid?

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: iron6] #642797
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So did the Edelbrock heads when using 1.6 rockers.
Just get out the grinder and live happily ever after. Or, upto the next snatch ofcourse.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: BigBlockMopar] #642798
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So did the Edelbrock heads when using 1.6 rockers.
Just get out the grinder and live happily ever after. Or, upto the next snatch ofcourse.








We had to grind my Eddy's for clearence.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: WILD BILL] #642799
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My Stealths fit with the 3/8 push rods.They are super close but dont touch.As said always check everything.I also changed me locks, springs and retainers.My machinist also back cut the valves and cleaned them a bit.Would have done it with just about any head.Rocky

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Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: therocks] #642800
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So you're surprsied a non-stock pushrod side won't fit? I wouldn't be, but for the price and considering it's an aftermarket part you'd think they'd have worked that into the design.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: iron6] #642801
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The challenge wasn't they needed clearanced. When you look at them it looks like they'll clear until you bolt them on and put the rocker shafts on to set vash lash. They put everything on the install sheet but check the clearance. Just trying to put info out there for the next guy. I've been checking out the info on the Stealth heads for over a year and never saw a post on clearance problems. All and all they came out nice we'll see what the improvement is in two weeks at T&T. I'm really not trying to be negective about the heads.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: iron6] #642802
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Install sheet? I never got no install sheet. Just a set of heads in a box.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: iron6] #642803
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Try a set of Victor heads!

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: AndyF] #642804
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I just hand ported a set for a friend and stealths definately are not Edelbrocks. I clearanced the pushrod holes while I was at it so I hope he has no issues on test fit.
I had to do my Indy SR's too but like you found out after assembly!!! LOL!!!

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: Dodgem] #642805
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...and stealths definately are not Edelbrocks.





Not to slam anyone but just wondering what that meant.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: HealthServices] #642806
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i just would like to know what needs attention on these heads? i understand they need the standard "blueprint"..ck valve job,guides/stems clearance,straightness, installed height,proper springs for cam,maybe backcut the valves?,...but is there any other things besides pushrods?....and the most of all how is the stock and ported stealth airflow vs 906.+.ported 906 big valves! actual numbers,and or hp increases please...i cant be the only one interested. not really interested in ede's...looking for stock look.

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Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: HealthServices] #642807
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...and stealths definately are not Edelbrocks.





Not to slam anyone but just wondering what that meant.




Not nearly as nice kinda crude (well Chinese so to speak) no way an OOTB Stealth will flow what and OOTB eddie will.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: Dodgem] #642808
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Oh here we go again. I'll take Stealths any day over Eddies for price.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: Dodgem] #642809
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Quote:

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...and stealths definately are not Edelbrocks.





Not to slam anyone but just wondering what that meant.




Not nearly as nice kinda crude (well Chinese so to speak) no way an OOTB Stealth will flow what and OOTB eddie will.




Not to start a but do you have the flow numbers to back up that claim? Because the numbers I have, done by a respected moparts head porter, show OOTB eddy vs OOTB stealth to be within +/- 4% of each other across the board.

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: ireland383] #642810
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I agree, no part is bolt on with out checking. Especially aftermarket.




SOUNDS LIKE you have run into some POOR QUALITY stuff.

IMO ...if you buy an "assembly" that is claimed to be BOLT-ON ... it should not need additional "checking".

Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: dOrk !] #642811
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A neighbor just bought a set of Stealth heads...VERY nice.He is changing the springs and locks and such as he is running a large cam,but he brought them to the machine shop to make sure everything with the valve job and guide clearance was good and they were just fine.


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Re: 440 Source Stealth Heads [Re: imfixinmopars426] #642812
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My 906's ported by COMP U Flow on his bench flowed 258 intake and 210 exhaust @ 600 lift. On a 472 Stroker with 640 lift cam ran 10.96 with a 3465# 67 Dodge at Norwalk CC event last season.
The Stealth Heads ported, I just put on flowed 284 Intake and 214 Exhaust @ 600 lift. In two weeks I'll let you know what the difference is. One thing for sure there is 40# off the front of the car. Thanks for all the comments see you all in Columbus, OH in May.

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