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How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? #639068
03/13/10 06:43 PM
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Hey all,

So today I'm trying to start my car after a complete fuel system swap. New tank, lines, pump, filter.

I've started the car about 5 times pouring gas in the carb, it runs for about 5 seconds and dies, of course, but I thought this would be enough to get new fuel from the tank. I put about 3 gallons in earlier today. I've cranked it many more times than that, thinking that would prime the system, but there's still no fuel showing up in the clear filter. I don't see anything leaking.

What the heck? Does this just take way longer than I thought to pull fuel through the new empty line? Or do I have a worse problem? (Like a bad new fuel pump),

Thanks for any help.

Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: Gusteve] #639069
03/13/10 07:10 PM
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Does this just take way longer than I thought to pull fuel through the new empty line?


Yes. hold a small funnel in the air connected to the carb inlet w your left hand and a SMALL container of gas (several ounces) in your right hand to replenish the funnel and run the pump output (that you disconnected) to a container and HAVE A HELPER start it & holler to him to kill it when it starts to flow into the container.


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Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: Gusteve] #639070
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OK - now am just flipped out. I added three more gallons of gas, thinking that with the car on jackstands in the back, it needed more.

I just turned the ignition key to "on" and my Oil Pressure gauge (which is not hooked up to the sending unit) pegs. This is not my day......

Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: RapidRobert] #639071
03/13/10 07:18 PM
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Does this just take way longer than I thought to pull fuel through the new empty line?


Yes. hold a small funnel in the air connected to the carb inlet w your left hand and a SMALL container of gas (several ounces) in your right hand to replenish the funnel and run the pump output (that you disconnected) to a container and HAVE A HELPER start it & holler to him to kill it when it starts to flow into the container.




Hmmm - that makes sense. Considering that all the air in the lines would need to somehow be pushed out through the carb otherwise.

Thank you!

Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: Gusteve] #639072
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I would put a little bit more gas in the tank and then siphon the line before the pump. Pore some gas in the carb, just a small amount. Should fire right up very shortly after that.

Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: bboogieart] #639073
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I took the line loose from the pump and blew compressed air in to the tank to get fuel running out of the end of the line. Blow gun and shop rags in the filler neck. It won't take much pressure to get the fuel flowing.

Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: BigDawg72] #639074
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I took the line loose from the pump and blew compressed air in to the tank to get fuel running out of the end of the line. Blow gun and shop rags in the filler neck. It won't take much pressure to get the fuel flowing.




Done that many times. Also works to get fuel out of the tank with no engine in the car.

Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #639075
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I had the same trouble years ago. Prime the carb runs quits crank crank crank still nothing. well after putting 10 gallons in the tank and the same problem I looked inder the car turns out that the rear fuel line had cracks in it. I was sucking air. 10 min later and a new line car fired right up.

Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: SCVpolara] #639076
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I had the same trouble years ago. Prime the carb runs quits crank crank crank still nothing. well after putting 10 gallons in the tank and the same problem I looked inder the car turns out that the rear fuel line had cracks in it. I was sucking air. 10 min later and a new line car fired right up.




except he said it was a total fuel system swap...tank, lines, etc.

try to get fuel to come out of the line by the pump first, to ensure you don't have a fuel line kinked or pinched shut somewhere.

if that doesn't work, check the diaphragm in the pump. DO NOT BLOW PRESSURIZED AIR THROUGH THE PUMP, that diaphragm is only meant for fuel pressure levels, and a 90psi shot of air could very well cause it to blow, then your pump won't pump fuel at all!

check the floats in the carb? they're not set so low that the needle/seat are "closed" are they?


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Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: Gusteve] #639077
03/15/10 10:37 PM
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I just fill the carb through the vent tubes. You will have fuel pumped to the carb before the bowl begins to run dry.

Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: 70Cuda383] #639078
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Stop pouring fuel down the carburetor throat. Your rings and walls will not be happy about that. Use a squirt bottle and fill the front carburetor bowl. The engine will also run much longer than raw fuel puddled in the intake.

I like compressed air with shop rags in the tank idea that was mentioned.


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Re: How long to prime fuel system after complete swap? [Re: Gusteve] #639079
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after working the carbs of jet ski's I blow into the tank to get fuel back to them, but don't use compressed air, just my lungs. The ski's have 15 gallon tanks so the volume of the tank isn't much different. A piece of heater hose and a damp rag is all you need, but don't get the hose in the fuel as it will blow back on you. You may need to disconnect the line at the fuel pump to get it to flow.







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