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Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? #614493
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I've been thinking when I have my FE5 Duster repainted I'll have the stripes painted on semi- gloss black possibly. I'll go with a base/clearcoat paint job.

I'd appreciate some opinions on having the stripes painted on instead of stripe decals.

Does it add much to the cost of the paint job?

TIA


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Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: MY340] #614494
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Depends on whether your doing the paint job yourself or not.

I painted a set of chevy racing stripes on my 80' malibu and they look great if not better than decals. Paint is going to last longer than decals IMO. I won't be painting the decals on my roadrunner cause that takes a lot of measurements to get the exact factory look, along with the pinstripes on the hood and what not.



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Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: CurYellowBird] #614495
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I only saw one car (a challenger) that had painted on stripes that looked half way good. They always seem to look wrong in some way. the decals on dads t/a challenger have been on there since 82 and they still look brand new. Id spend the money getting decals IMO.


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Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: mopars_1] #614496
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The painted stripes will be shiny. Most decals will be satin or flat...

Dave

Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: HemiDave] #614497
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I did mine on a 1970 Dart. The decals are a matte. I bought the set of bumblebee stripes from Year One (which was apparently made on 3M backed paper) and I applied them with a help of a friend...they went on very easy. 2 years later the top stripe was faded away and the sides were still semi gloss. A year after that stage the top decal on the trunk started peeling apart.

I eventually had mine painted on at the next paint job, under the clear coat and it looked Fan tastic.


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Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: Pyper70] #614498
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Painted on stripes last alot longer if good material is used. It will probably cost about the same as buying a sticker. I'm a paint and body guy so anything I do will have painted stripes.

Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: Mopargnome] #614499
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To get the matte look with a painted on stripe you'd need to have the paint flattened out a little and then spray the stripe color over top of the clear coat.

Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: Neil] #614500
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The stripe was painted on my sons Dart and then clear coated over. It was done in 1998 and it still looks great. Ron



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How complicated of a stripe? I'd imaging a roadrunner strip like mine would not be worth the effort to paint on.

Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #614502
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I prefer paint.

These stripes don't really show up unless there is a lot of sunlight. Kinda like 'stealth' stripes.


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Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: MY340] #614503
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If it does not have to be factory correct for a restoration, the painted on stripes (with base/clear) is the way to go. The decals fade and discolor, and start to crack after several years. The rear R/T stripe (white) on my '69 Convertible is faded, discolored, and starting to get small cracks, while the rest if the paint still looks decent.

I painted the black stripes, and hood blackout on my '71 charger, This was a base/clear paint job, and the paint and stripes still look great, but it did take quite a bit of time to lay out the stripes using the fine-line tape. Also, with the paint in stripes, The stripes were painted further into the trunk area.

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Stripes painted on or decals?
A matter of personal preference.
Painted on last indefinitely.
Decals fade,crack,etc.

I chose decals because I wanted to be factory correct.

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I forgot my dad painted his stripe on his 67' Dart GTS, which was much trickier because the center of the stripe is supposed to form a very, and I mean very, subtle V to be factory correct. I think we spent a day or so making proper measurements then lining up the tape.



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Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: TexasMopar] #614506
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If you damage the car in a wreck or garage mishap you will be glad you used decals instead of paint.

Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: TexasMopar] #614507
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Painted stripes- Everything has to go just right with the fine-line tape and removal so you don't get bleed-through under the tape or something go wrong on removal..

Decals- Wide decals going over body contours can be a pain to get flat and get all air bubbles out..

Myself- 3 year old Pheonix-Graphics decals that still look just like they did the day I put them on, when I messed one of them up going on they sent me another one of that piece dirt cheap

Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: donbarnes] #614508
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If you are going with the factory style 1970 dual longitudinal stripes, they are pretty easy to layout and paint. As others have said, if your car is outside a lot, they with probably last longer plus it will give you a more custom look if they are painted on.

On the other hand, if you are looking to do the upper body stripes like on a 71 or 72, they are harder to get right unless you order a stencil/mask kit.

Truthfully, it boils down to personal preferences. Me, I'd prefer if you bought some stripes from me but I can see the benefit of painting them on as well. Even though I actually produce stripes myself, I sometimes paint them on based on my "vision" for the car/truck I am building.

Of course the biggest con of painting on stripes is if you change your mind and want to do something different down the road.

Re: Pros and Cons of painted on stripes? [Re: ChallengerGary] #614509
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Pro's:

- last longer
- easier to clean, wax, etc.
- looks very clean

Cons's:

- not correct
- more work/more expensive to have done
- texture/gloss is incorrect
- repairs are more complicated and expensive
- painted stripes sometimes "get lost" in the reflection of light of the panel compared to traditional vinyl stripes and decals.

Dave


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Quote:

If you are going with the factory style 1970 dual longitudinal stripes, they are pretty easy to layout and paint. As others have said, if your car is outside a lot, they with probably last longer plus it will give you a more custom look if they are painted on.

On the other hand, if you are looking to do the upper body stripes like on a 71 or 72, they are harder to get right unless you order a stencil/mask kit.

Truthfully, it boils down to personal preferences. Me, I'd prefer if you bought some stripes from me but I can see the benefit of painting them on as well. Even though I actually produce stripes myself, I sometimes paint them on based on my "vision" for the car/truck I am building.



Gary,
If I don't have them painted I'll buy from you. I'm just kinda looking for opinions right now. The side stripes will be the 71-72 style with 360 callouts.

Thanks!



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