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drive train vibration.HELP #613694
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I have a bad drive train vibration from about 2800 rpm up..Heres what i've done..it's a 440 with t-flight,8 3/4rear..motor is smooth in neutral. I have 2 converters.stock and 3000 stall.no change..stock drive shaft,and 3 + inch shaft custom made and both balanced as I had to have them stortened for my install.I have 2 center sections for the rear, one has 3:91 gear the other 2:76 open for road trips..that was the original 741 chunk that came with the rear housing, the other is a 489 with posi.Vibration with any combo is at 2800,tires balanced a few times plus another set,plus the Hoosiers.I'm out of things to try..feels like drive shaft type of vibration.I have gone from down 2 dg to o dg to up 2 dg on the pinion angle.Any ideas ???PLEASE READ MY LAST POST FOR THE RESULTS ..VIBRATION IS ALMOST GONE,THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP.

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Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: dynamite] #613695
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How is pinion angle ?

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: OzHemi] #613696
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Oh, you must have added that bit..

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: OzHemi] #613697
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Quote:

How is pinion angle ?


Read his Original post.


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Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: MoparforLife] #613698
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Is the exhaust mounted ridged or with good rubber hangers? Is it hitting anywhere?

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: 1hot68] #613699
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tail shaft bushing?


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Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: 1hot68] #613700
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Sorry OZ did edit that in.. with exhaust or just the headers ,,still there

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: 1hot68] #613701
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Possibly a bad bushing in tail shaft?

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: FurryStump] #613702
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engine mounts arent sagging? The headrs have any contact with the block? even just a little contact will be felt in a unibody car. What car is it?

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: 1hot68] #613703
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cracks in the flywheel?

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: dynamite] #613704
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Many things can cause a driveline vibration:

Too much downward pinion angle will cause a vibration on deceleration.

Too much upward pinion angle will cause a vibration on acceleration.

Driveshaft run out

More than 1" slip yoke (internal) stand out

Less than 3/4" slip yoke (internal) stand out

Sloppy fitting slip yoke bushing

Sloppy fitting slip yoke splines

Sloppy fitting U-joint saddles/missing clips

Solid motor mounts

Poly transmission mount

Loose pinion yoke

Engine/bellhousing alignment

Torque converter/vibration damper balance

Exhaust grounding out on body

etc...

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Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: 1hot68] #613705
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Not an exhaust problem..headers don't touch anything..vibration is there with the rest of the exhaust system off,for a 1/4 mile run..and yes it runs faster with the exhaust on.Car is my 1956 Plymouth you have seen here a lot.

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Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: MoparforLife] #613706
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Quote:

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How is pinion angle ?


Read his Original post.




He changed it, was not there originally...that is the first thing that came to mind with his going over other issues he has checked on..

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: OzHemi] #613707
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DR Diff ...the vibration is there at a constant speed.. not only on accel or decell.just crusing at a steady 3000 rpm or so.

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Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: dynamite] #613708
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Does it change if you put the car in nuetral at that speed ?

Maybe it's an issue in the engine or trans ? (if it does it at 3000 rpm in any gear lets say)

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: dynamite] #613709
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What angle is your pinion centerline at rest?

What angle is your transmission centerline at rest?

These angles should be a couple degrees within parallel.

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: DoctorDiff] #613710
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DR diff..righr now it is as close to zero as I can get it..Drive shaft when first made for me was a hair too long and was hard to get in, but once past the yolk it still had about a half inch play..I took it back and had it shortened another 3/4 inch..it had the vibration both ways..no change

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OZ HEMI.. yes the vibration is there if I put it into neutral at that speed..trans bushing thing may be my next thing to check..Thanks Jeff

Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: dynamite] #613712
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Be interesting to get the car on a chassis dyno so you could look under it at speed and see if you can see anything moving, feel for vibration at different points,etc...

Aside from what Cass said about angles...are the u-joints in good shape too ?

Cracked flexplate maybe on a long shot ?

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Re: drive train vibration.HELP [Re: dynamite] #613713
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Not moving it is smooth @ 2800 in neutral right? I gotta go w driveshaft related as you originally mentioned. ujoint/shaft/yoke/angles


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