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Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: charge70] #610970
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The actual blue color came later with the low-compression "smog" motors.




My friends early build 70 Charger 500 383-2 bbl,auto w/A.C. this is an untouched original car,has a blue painted engine. John.




Are 70 Charger's a whole different ballgame?

What they are talking about here applies to Satelites/Belvederes only? Maybe Coronets too?

Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: DPelletier] #610971
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I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (E87) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.




agreed! like I mentioned, my RP23N0E had never been disassembled and is a 383HP stamped non-A/C 4 speed and was orange when I bought it in 82. when I opened it up it had a windage tray. Wouldn't that indicate 335 horse?

Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: DPelletier] #610972
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As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX.




I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (087) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.




Dan is rarely inaccurate and documents his posts very well.

Further proof 70 Belvedere 4 speeds recieved the 087 engine assembly. Here are tags from Lynch Road buit cars. Notice the RR and the Belvedere have the same engine.

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Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: autoxcuda] #610973
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What they are talking about here applies to Satelites/Belvederes only? Maybe Coronets too?




ALL 70 B bodies.

There's another thread documenting engines in '70 Chargers somewhere.


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Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: topside] #610974
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My original/untouched '70 Satellite 383 4-bbl A/T car had a turquoise motor & AVS carb. The orange vs. turquoise '70 383 4-bbl deal has been debated here before, and IIRC the orange ones are an anomaly. As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX. '69 RR 383s with A/C were turquoise 330-horse motors, not the 335, had one. Possibly this changed for '70, but not on mine. All the cars I'm referring to were St.Louis built.




Each year of the 330/335 horse engine (68-70) is different and the applications (Automatic, manual, A/C and Non-A/C) and model can vary by year. What applied one year may not have applied the next.


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Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #610975
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OK, I get the deal with orange 383 4bbls in "non-performance" stick models for '70. I think it's still correct to say that orange signalled an HP B/RB motor.
But my '70 car did have its original turquoise motor; it wasn't blue. No amount of grease or dirt or whatever would confuse me on that; I have 440 blocks in the shop, one turquoise & one blue. So THAT'S an anomaly ?! Wish I knew the build date.
The OP asked about 383 2bbl & 4-bbls, and I responded with what was in my car. I'm incorrect in calling the orange motors in non-performance models an anomaly, having never seen one that I KNEW to be original; thanks for the info on that.

Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #610976
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What they are talking about here applies to Satelites/Belvederes only? Maybe Coronets too?




ALL 70 B bodies.

There's another thread documenting engines in '70 Chargers somewhere.




I know someone with a 70 Charger 500, A/C automatic. 2nd owner 70K original miles. Number matching buildsheet. I sure thought he had a orange HP motor.

Should that be a blue/turquiose motor?

Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: autoxcuda] #610977
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I'm pretty sure the last 383 4bbl '70 Charger thread determined that Chargers were handled the same as Road Runners and Super Bees - all orange 383HPs.

Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #610978
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As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX.




I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (087) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.




Dan is rarely inaccurate and documents his posts very well.

Further proof 70 Belvedere 4 speeds recieved the 087 engine assembly. Here are tags from Lynch Road buit cars. Notice the RR and the Belvedere have the same engine.




So it's a B5 Blue Belvedere with a 383 4 speed? Does this car still exist? Would love pics!

Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #610979
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As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX.




I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (087) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.




Dan is rarely inaccurate and documents his posts very well.

Further proof 70 Belvedere 4 speeds recieved the 087 engine assembly. Here are tags from Lynch Road buit cars. Notice the RR and the Belvedere have the same engine.






the 2 tag is RH 23 Satellite HARD TOP is a RL 21 for a Belvedere


RL21 Belvedere 2Dr Sedan 70
RH23 Satellite 2Dr Hardtop 70
RH27 Satellite Convertible 70
RM21 Road Runner 2Dr Coupe 70
RM23 Road Runner 2Dr Hardtop 70
RM27 Road Runner Convertible 70
RP23 Sport Satellite 2Dr Hardtop 70
RP27 Sport Satellite Convertible 70
RS23 GTX 2Dr Hardtop 70

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Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: DusterKrazy] #610980
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So, According to this you could get the 330hp engine in a Belvedere? That rocks!




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