Posted By: In_The_Pink
'70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/12/10 02:08 AM
What are the factory engine colors for a '70 Plymouth Satellite equipped with the Commando 383 2-bbl or with the Super Commando 383 4-bbl engine? 
'70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color?
Posted By: Dougsmopars
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/12/10 02:49 AM
I beleive it would be mopar blue for both.
Posted By: 70gtx440dana
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/12/10 03:52 AM
70 383 2 barrel = Blue
70 383 4 barrel with a/c = blue
70 383 4 barrel non a/c = orange
70 383 4 barrel with a/c = blue
70 383 4 barrel non a/c = orange
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/12/10 06:12 AM
Does the car have a b'cast sheet?
Holley 4bbl carb = orange
Carter 4bbl carb = blue
& was "SUPER COMMANDO 383" actually used in '70?
Holley 4bbl carb = orange
Carter 4bbl carb = blue
& was "SUPER COMMANDO 383" actually used in '70?
Posted By: In_The_Pink
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/12/10 07:43 AM
Quote:'fraid not, but it does have an instruction sheet.
Does the car have a b'cast sheet?
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was "SUPER COMMANDO 383" actually used in '70?
I honestly have no idea, I was going by this:
Posted By: cuda-sweden
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/12/10 08:00 PM
i have a -70 cuda with ac and 4 speed,the engine is orange with a holley 4367.the air cleaner says super commando 383,in orange.N-code. 
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/12/10 08:25 PM
Where does the car in question fall optionwise?
1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange
1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange
Posted By: Dougsmopars
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/12/10 09:53 PM
I thought hemi orange was only used on High Performence motors? Sat with 383 would not be the high performence model. I had a 70 Coronet with 383 all orignal car and motor was blue.
Posted By: In_The_Pink
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/13/10 03:42 AM
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Where does the car in question fall optionwise?
1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange
It has a 4-speed manual trans, which means it can only be the 330-horse, 4-bbl 383 since it's in a Satellite?:
I guess that would make it orange?
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/13/10 04:34 AM
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Where does the car in question fall optionwise?
1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange
It has a 4-speed manual trans, which means it can only be the 330-horse, 4-bbl 383 since it's in a Satellite?:
I guess that would make it orange?
Four speed Satellites had the same engine assembly as the RR so it would be the 335 horse orange.
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/13/10 04:44 AM
It will be ORANGE & the original engine was "HP" (335hp) even though it wasn't spelled out that way in the paperwork shown, RARE insurance beater! 
Here's a '70 Sport Satellite b'cast sheet-
383 4bbl 4-spd w/3.23 open rear axle
ENG - 087 - same as similar equipped Road Runner
&
CARB - 36 - Holley 4bbl #3418 536 - LIST R4367A
We need more details and pics of the car - 2 door hardtop/convertible? Color combo?
Here's a '70 Sport Satellite b'cast sheet-
383 4bbl 4-spd w/3.23 open rear axle
ENG - 087 - same as similar equipped Road Runner
&
CARB - 36 - Holley 4bbl #3418 536 - LIST R4367A
We need more details and pics of the car - 2 door hardtop/convertible? Color combo?
Posted By: topside
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/13/10 08:41 PM
My original/untouched '70 Satellite 383 4-bbl A/T car had a turquoise motor & AVS carb. The orange vs. turquoise '70 383 4-bbl deal has been debated here before, and IIRC the orange ones are an anomaly. As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX. '69 RR 383s with A/C were turquoise 330-horse motors, not the 335, had one. Possibly this changed for '70, but not on mine. All the cars I'm referring to were St.Louis built.
The actual blue color came later with the low-compression "smog" motors.
The actual blue color came later with the low-compression "smog" motors.
Posted By: charge70
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/13/10 11:59 PM
The actual blue color came later with the low-compression "smog" motors.
My friends early build 70 Charger 500 383-2 bbl,auto w/A.C. this is an untouched original car,has a blue painted engine. John.
Posted By: topside
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/14/10 12:27 AM
I'd like to see a picture of that, as well as the SPD. It's #s matching?
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/14/10 07:13 AM
Some dirty old cooked paint '70 big blocks look turquoise but were originally blue.
Posted By: demon
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/14/10 04:02 PM
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Some dirty old cooked paint '70 big blocks look turquoise but were originally blue.
I agree. 1969 was the last year turquoise was used
Posted By: mickm
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/14/10 09:09 PM
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that just strikes me as absolutely hilarious, "no speed control" on the hemi option!
Posted By: 70SportSatellite
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/15/10 03:26 PM
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Four speed Satellites had the same engine assembly as the RR so it would be the 335 horse orange.
When I bought my car in '82 I had to rebuild the engine and I am positive it had never been rebuilt. It is a 4 speed HP stamped block, windage tray, Holley carb and orange. Here is a pic of one of 3 other 4 speed Sport Satellites that I know of and although it appears to have been either touched up or repainted it is an A/C 4 speed in orange. I don't know which carb.
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/15/10 05:56 PM
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Where does the car in question fall optionwise?
1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange
It has a 4-speed manual trans, which means it can only be the 330-horse, 4-bbl 383 since it's in a Satellite?:
I guess that would make it orange?
So, According to this you could get the 330hp engine in a Belvedere? That rocks!
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/15/10 08:36 PM
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As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX.
I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (E87) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.
....at least that's my recollection based on all the proof brought forward last time.
Dave
Posted By: autoxcuda
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/15/10 09:06 PM
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The actual blue color came later with the low-compression "smog" motors.
My friends early build 70 Charger 500 383-2 bbl,auto w/A.C. this is an untouched original car,has a blue painted engine. John.
Are 70 Charger's a whole different ballgame?
What they are talking about here applies to Satelites/Belvederes only? Maybe Coronets too?
Posted By: 70SportSatellite
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/15/10 10:28 PM
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I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (E87) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.
agreed! like I mentioned, my RP23N0E had never been disassembled and is a 383HP stamped non-A/C 4 speed and was orange when I bought it in 82. when I opened it up it had a windage tray. Wouldn't that indicate 335 horse?
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/16/10 01:28 AM
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As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX.
I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (087) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.
Dan is rarely inaccurate and documents his posts very well.
Further proof 70 Belvedere 4 speeds recieved the 087 engine assembly. Here are tags from Lynch Road buit cars. Notice the RR and the Belvedere have the same engine.
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/16/10 01:30 AM
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What they are talking about here applies to Satelites/Belvederes only? Maybe Coronets too?
ALL 70 B bodies.
There's another thread documenting engines in '70 Chargers somewhere.
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/16/10 01:33 AM
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My original/untouched '70 Satellite 383 4-bbl A/T car had a turquoise motor & AVS carb. The orange vs. turquoise '70 383 4-bbl deal has been debated here before, and IIRC the orange ones are an anomaly. As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX. '69 RR 383s with A/C were turquoise 330-horse motors, not the 335, had one. Possibly this changed for '70, but not on mine. All the cars I'm referring to were St.Louis built.
Each year of the 330/335 horse engine (68-70) is different and the applications (Automatic, manual, A/C and Non-A/C) and model can vary by year. What applied one year may not have applied the next.
Posted By: topside
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/16/10 04:58 AM
OK, I get the deal with orange 383 4bbls in "non-performance" stick models for '70. I think it's still correct to say that orange signalled an HP B/RB motor.
But my '70 car did have its original turquoise motor; it wasn't blue. No amount of grease or dirt or whatever would confuse me on that; I have 440 blocks in the shop, one turquoise & one blue. So THAT'S an anomaly ?! Wish I knew the build date.
The OP asked about 383 2bbl & 4-bbls, and I responded with what was in my car. I'm incorrect in calling the orange motors in non-performance models an anomaly, having never seen one that I KNEW to be original; thanks for the info on that.
But my '70 car did have its original turquoise motor; it wasn't blue. No amount of grease or dirt or whatever would confuse me on that; I have 440 blocks in the shop, one turquoise & one blue. So THAT'S an anomaly ?! Wish I knew the build date.
The OP asked about 383 2bbl & 4-bbls, and I responded with what was in my car. I'm incorrect in calling the orange motors in non-performance models an anomaly, having never seen one that I KNEW to be original; thanks for the info on that.
Posted By: autoxcuda
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/16/10 08:05 AM
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What they are talking about here applies to Satelites/Belvederes only? Maybe Coronets too?
ALL 70 B bodies.
There's another thread documenting engines in '70 Chargers somewhere.
I know someone with a 70 Charger 500, A/C automatic. 2nd owner 70K original miles. Number matching buildsheet. I sure thought he had a orange HP motor.
Should that be a blue/turquiose motor?
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/16/10 09:59 AM
I'm pretty sure the last 383 4bbl '70 Charger thread determined that Chargers were handled the same as Road Runners and Super Bees - all orange 383HPs.
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/16/10 04:24 PM
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As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX.
I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (087) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.
Dan is rarely inaccurate and documents his posts very well.
Further proof 70 Belvedere 4 speeds recieved the 087 engine assembly. Here are tags from Lynch Road buit cars. Notice the RR and the Belvedere have the same engine.
So it's a B5 Blue Belvedere with a 383 4 speed? Does this car still exist? Would love pics!
Posted By: 440beep
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/16/10 09:03 PM
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As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX.
I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (087) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.
Dan is rarely inaccurate and documents his posts very well.
Further proof 70 Belvedere 4 speeds recieved the 087 engine assembly. Here are tags from Lynch Road buit cars. Notice the RR and the Belvedere have the same engine.
the 2 tag is RH 23 Satellite HARD TOP is a RL 21 for a Belvedere 
RL21 Belvedere 2Dr Sedan 70
RH23 Satellite 2Dr Hardtop 70
RH27 Satellite Convertible 70
RM21 Road Runner 2Dr Coupe 70
RM23 Road Runner 2Dr Hardtop 70
RM27 Road Runner Convertible 70
RP23 Sport Satellite 2Dr Hardtop 70
RP27 Sport Satellite Convertible 70
RS23 GTX 2Dr Hardtop 70
Posted By: 69L78Nova
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? - 02/17/10 02:53 AM
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So, According to this you could get the 330hp engine in a Belvedere? That rocks!
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