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Procharger & 572 Hemi #608337
02/08/10 11:17 PM
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Keith Black® Offline OP
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Hi All,
has anyone run a Procharger on a Hemi? What size would be 'about right' for a mild boost (<10lbs) 572 Hemi application (street car)??
Expect to have 9:1 comp & mild boost & EFI.
Looking for stand out power in a B Body 68 Charger street car.

Darren


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Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Keith Black®] #608338
02/09/10 12:44 AM
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Hi All,
has anyone run a Procharger on a Hemi? What size would be 'about right' for a mild boost (<10lbs) 572 Hemi application (street car)??
Expect to have 9:1 comp & mild boost & EFI.
Looking for stand out power in a B Body 68 Charger street car.

Darren





These guys will know.

http://www.thesuperchargerstore.com/

Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Keith Black®] #608339
02/09/10 11:32 AM
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I just finished this pump gas motor. Made >1000 HP at 12 pounds. Everyone knows me as the EFI guy, so I would have preferred using EFI, but this customer wanted a blow-through carb (I used CSU for the carb). I had some jetting issues that would have never come up with EFI.

9:1 CR, hydraulic cam, MSD BTM ignition, very nice idle. A perfect street motor. I decided to go 472" to better match the flow volume of the F1.

Bob at The Supercharger Store can walk you through everything.

Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #608340
02/09/10 01:51 PM
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You need to check out the Holy Hemi.. SMRE was a site sponsor... They have the bad custom bracket that mounts the Pro Charger in a reverse pattern..
How about 2000+hp froma Pump gas, cast intake Hemi!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hSZjdlKz6c


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Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Bob_Coomer] #608341
02/09/10 01:58 PM
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How about The Stig Jr.
Over 1000 hp with a small D1X procharger and a hemi

5793211-mark-hemi.jpg (1057 downloads)

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Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Kam*Kuda] #608342
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Has anyone ever tried a water injection on blown-EFI?? I've only seen it with blow-through

Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Defbob] #608343
03/21/10 01:43 AM
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Has anyone ever tried a water injection on blown-EFI?? I've only seen it with blow-through




I run it on my vette. Works great


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Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #608344
03/21/10 02:09 AM
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I just finished this pump gas motor. Made >1000 HP at 12 pounds. Everyone knows me as the EFI guy, so I would have preferred using EFI, but this customer wanted a blow-through carb (I used CSU for the carb). I had some jetting issues that would have never come up with EFI.

9:1 CR, hydraulic cam, MSD BTM ignition, very nice idle. A perfect street motor. I decided to go 472" to better match the flow volume of the F1.

Bob at The Supercharger Store can walk you through everything.




What's a motor like that cost when all said and done?

Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Chris_R/T] #608345
03/21/10 04:57 AM
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My guess is the 472 could cost anything depending on choice of parts & what you started with. $40k?


Thanks to everyone, and Rich in particular, it looks like the Hemi/F2 combination with EFI will produce about 1,500hp (intercooled).

Getting started on the engine build now.
Darren

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Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Keith Black®] #608346
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My guess is the 472 could cost anything depending on choice of parts & what you started with. $40k?


Thanks to everyone, and Rich in particular, it looks like the Hemi/F2 combination with EFI will produce about 1,500hp (intercooled).

Getting started on the engine build now.
Darren




Your not going to get 1500hp with 10lbs of boost
You can make 10 lbs with a d1 maxed out.
I would talk with Steve Morris at New Era to get the correct low down on what to do.
Procharger tech sent me to him to get my correct cog sizes because they weren't sure on hemi stuff.

Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Chris_R/T] #608347
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What's a motor like that cost when all said and done?



That one was about $28K with all new parts and dyno time.



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Your not going to get 1500hp with 10lbs of boost.



A 540" Hemi with 15 lbs of boost, on 100 octane, and no intercooler, will make about 1250-1300. Add a good intercooler and you come pretty close to 1500.
I use Bob at The Supercharger Store for all my Mopar Procharger stuff. They have all the bracketry and they know the pulley sizes to get very close on the first try.

Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Defbob] #608348
03/21/10 01:08 PM
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Has anyone ever tried a water injection on blown-EFI?? I've only seen it with blow-through




I've done it, Bob at The Supercharger Store suggested I try this (water and Meth) and it was easy pleasy... No negatives from what I could see except having more containers to fill.
The EFI didn't care.

Re: Procharger & 572 Hemi [Re: Mopar_Rich] #608349
05/07/10 12:21 AM
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How did you make out?

My Cuda has a KB588, FAST EFI and F1R. About 1050 hp @ 8psi and using water/meth injection.

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