Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
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I am going to a 440 with a performer rpm intake and I was wondering if it would fit with the ramcharger hood and air cleaner set up?I want to keep the motor as stock looking as possible,and I will be running a holley 850.Thanks
pretty sure your going to have a little issue.....with the carb....
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
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I am going to run into the same issue..have not crossed that bridge yet..gonna run the 383 I have until the 440 is done....
I am 100% sure I will deff need to change intake..LOL
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
[Re: 1hirschdalemopar]
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Thanks for the replies,that a real bummer because I really want to run that set up,but maybe I will try for a modified air cleaner base or I may just have to come up with a different intake that performes close to the rpm intake.Any ideas on a different intake?
I intend to mock up stock application then do some simple math....
prob going to leave off air box..until later date....
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
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I'm not sure but i beleive the air cleaner for the 440 cars is different from 383 cars. Lower profile. Look into that. Check your air cleaner against your brothers.
yes it is..the 440 one is shorter.. been there done that.....
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
[Re: 1hirschdalemopar]
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the 440 decks are going to be ~.745" (3/4") taller than your 383 out at a 45 angle which will translate to less than 3/4" of a vertical height change. The street dominator is a tried & true intake and might not be the perfect intake for your app (I am not sure) but yes it is a (very) low profile piece and I dont think it would hurt you in your app.
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
[Re: 1hirschdalemopar]
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this is my low deck street dominator that's going on my 451. EDIT 20 yrs ago nationally known Mopar racer Bill Bagshaw made 511 horsepower w a 30 over 440 w 6 pack (2355) pistons (9.5:1 CR) HOME ported 906 heads w the MP 2.08/1.74 templates (plastic sheet patterns were cut out larger), a box stock 750 (4779) holley dp and you guessed it a street dominator intake . You're not gonna be makin more than 511 are you
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
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Thanks guys,now I am on the right track,just have to see if I can make the rpm intake work.I am not scared to make my own base if possible.
I think this is the right approach. When you get to this point, you'll figure something out to make it work.
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
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I've got a 1969 383 Super Bee with the ramcharger setup. Currently it has a 1965 dated 383 with an Edelbrock intake and carb. The carb sits almost an 1" higher, so I took a repro base and shaved the bottom opening that sits on the carb until everything fit. I didn't have any issues with lines off of the carb or fuel linkage. Now I'm thinking about putting in a proper year 383 or 440. Did you get your 440 to work with the Ramcharger? I would be interested in hearing how your project ended up! And any insights into switching to a 440 with the ramcharger. Thanks!
The ductwork on the hood does not care what engine is under it , it's the same pieces , with a cutout for master cylinder clearance for the hemi engine also. what you found out is the air cleaner height is the deciding factor. you can put a 440 in there but be careful with manifold selection , you will have to modify that air cleaner you have more to kep it from hitting the hood .
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
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Thanks! I wasn't sure if the carb would be more forward or to the rear to where it wouldn't fit into the ramcharger. I figured I could accomodate the difference in height as long as it wasn't too much. It seems like it would be ok.
The carb is in the same location front to rear/side to side.
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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee)
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I realize I'm talking a 383 B engine and not to a 440 but so many have responed to this post I figure it was a good place to put since I wouldn't be hi jacking a current post. It's been a while so I thought I would ask and get it started back up. I'm now in this same funk!! I'm building a 512 stroker 400 base engine and the customer wants to keep his freshly restored and painted Ram Charger hood. But with limited choices of intakes, the engine will suffer performance and be bottle necked at the intake. What is the best intake selection with at this time to fit under the 69 superbee fiberglass, I know a 100 plus horsepower loss is coming...with the intake if the customer doesn't change his mind. I would like to use the 383 Torker 2. What is the difference in intake heights from Torker 2 to stock magnum 4 barrel ?
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