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383 to 440(69 superbee) #604263
02/04/10 09:57 PM 02/04/10 09:57 PM
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I am going to a 440 with a performer rpm intake and I was wondering if it would fit with the ramcharger hood and air cleaner set up?I want to keep the motor as stock looking as possible,and I will be running a holley 850.Thanks

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604264
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I am going to a 440 with a performer rpm intake and I was wondering if it would fit with the ramcharger hood and air cleaner set up?I want to keep the motor as stock looking as possible,and I will be running a holley 850.Thanks



pretty sure your going to have a little issue.....with the carb....
Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 340dart4spd ] #604265
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Sorry,its a 440 block but it has the 4.250 crank and 7.100 rods so its a little bigger than a 440 cubic inch wise.But is the holley taller than the carter carb?

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604266
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I beleive the 440 block is taller to start with. Also that intake is taller then stock. You may have to modify the air cleaner base to get it sitting lower. No isues without the air grabber. Maybe someone here has done this.?
Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604267
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I don't think that you'll be able to use the ram air setup due to the fact that the fuel inlets on the holley will interfere with the air cleaner. Also not sure if you'll have enough clearance with the rpm to hood.
Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: repad] #604268
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I am going to run into the same issue..have not crossed that bridge yet..gonna run the 383 I have until the 440 is done....


I am 100% sure I will deff need to change intake..LOL

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: repad] #604269
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Thanks for the replies,that a real bummer because I really want to run that set up,but maybe I will try for a modified air cleaner base or I may just have to come up with a different intake that performes close to the rpm intake.Any ideas on a different intake?

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604270
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Thanks for the replies,that a real bummer because I really want to run that set up,but maybe I will try for a modified air cleaner base or I may just have to come up with a different intake that performes close to the rpm intake.Any ideas on a different intake?



I intend to mock up stock application then do some simple math....

prob going to leave off air box..until later date....
Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 340dart4spd ] #604271
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WOW,thats for sure.My brother is putting together a 69 cornet rt 440,4sp with that same hood set up with a holley carb with an older intake(thinks its a torker) single plane and it came on the car when he picked it up and everything fit ok,so he is going to call me with some ideas,but that could take a while and I want to know now.

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604272
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I'm not sure but i beleive the air cleaner for the 440 cars is different from 383 cars. Lower profile. Look into that. Check your air cleaner against your brothers.
Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: Dougsmopars] #604273
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I'm not sure but i beleive the air cleaner for the 440 cars is different from 383 cars. Lower profile. Look into that. Check your air cleaner against your brothers.



yes it is..the 440 one is shorter.. been there done that.....
Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 340dart4spd ] #604274
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Thanks guys,now I am on the right track,just have to see if I can make the rpm intake work.I am not scared to make my own base if possible.

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604275
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I'm sure some one here has done this. I think you'd need to modify the base in the fuel inlet area, maybe notch it. I know there's no hood clearence issue on this swap even with the intake. The performer is a bit shorter then the RPM is
Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: Dougsmopars] #604276
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I'm sure some one here has done this. I think you'd need to modify the base in the fuel inlet area, maybe notch it. I know there's no hood clearence issue on this swap even with the intake. The performer is a bit shorter then the RPM is

Thanks,Doug,I guess I will just have to get the motor in there and take some measurements.Maybe someone has done this same combo and has the secet code on how to do this.

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604277
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Has anyone ran the offenhuaser 360 daul plane # 5762?,or the holley street dominator,maybe they are lower rise,but I dont want to cork the motor off with a crappy intake.Any info on the torker II?They are a little lower than the rpm but not much.But anything helps at this point

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604278
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the 440 decks are going to be ~.745" (3/4") taller than your 383 out at a 45 angle which will translate to less than 3/4" of a vertical height change. The street dominator is a tried & true intake and might not be the perfect intake for your app (I am not sure) but yes it is a (very) low profile piece and I dont think it would hurt you in your app.

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: RapidRobert] #604279
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the 440 decks are going to be ~.745" (3/4") taller than your 383 out at a 45 angle which will translate to less than 3/4" of a vertical height change. The street dominator is a tried & true intake and might not be the perfect intake for your app (I am not sure) but yes it is a (very) low profile piece and I dont think it would hurt you in your app.

Thanks rapidrob,I will look for more info on that intake,if ti is even close to the rpm I will run it for sure(its not a full blown drag car but I want it to be close on the street)

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: 1hirschdalemopar] #604280
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this is my low deck street dominator that's going on my 451. EDIT 20 yrs ago nationally known Mopar racer Bill Bagshaw made 511 horsepower w a 30 over 440 w 6 pack (2355) pistons (9.5:1 CR) HOME ported 906 heads w the MP 2.08/1.74 templates (plastic sheet patterns were cut out larger), a box stock 750 (4779) holley dp and you guessed it a street dominator intake . You're not gonna be makin more than 511 are you

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Re: 383 to 440(69 superbee) [Re: RapidRobert] #604281
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The holley SD is a good intake, and likely won't see a 1/4 mile diff between it and the RPM in your application. However you didn't say what kind of heads, porting and cam specs. That's what tells us how serious your motor is about needing intake flow.
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The holley SD is a good intake, and likely won't see a 1/4 mile diff between it and the RPM in your application. However you didn't say what kind of heads, porting and cam specs. That's what tells us how serious your motor is about needing intake flow.



The SD is an excellent intake and does quite well in comparison to the RPM. Considering they are much cheaper because they are used it kind of sweetens the deal. However if you already have the RPM there is not going to be that huge of a difference between the 2.

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