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Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: modified1090] #597970
02/10/10 11:05 PM
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just another of there many STUPID rules
sorry but in my opinion NHRA doesn't have a clue!



how many live would have been lost if top fuel used the safety rules from the 60's running the speeds of the 01's?
a locking dip stick may not save your life someday but it may save someone's and that would make this all worth it.

i think NHRA does have a clue!

people are stupid some times, i'm not saying that you are and your car may never miss a beat even with out the locking dipstick, think about the person next to you going down the track. is he stupid? will this rule stop his car from puking trans fluid under his rear tires and stop him from darting across the lane into you!
just my




So you plug the tube.... are you putting a catch can
on the vent.... its not mandatory.... do you have
one now... just asking

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: modified1090] #597971
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just another of there many STUPID rules
sorry but in my opinion NHRA doesn't have a clue!



how many live would have been lost if top fuel used the safety rules from the 60's running the speeds of the 01's?
a locking dip stick may not save your life someday but it may save someone's and that would make this all worth it.

i think NHRA does have a clue!

people are stupid some times, i'm not saying that you are and your car may never miss a beat even with out the locking dipstick, think about the person next to you going down the track. is he stupid? will this rule stop his car from puking trans fluid under his rear tires and stop him from darting across the lane into you!
just my




1st of all I have a locking dip stick when I needed a new tube and stick I just got the locking one to apise the GODS however I can tell you in 25 years in the buisness and building hot rods I have seen maybe 1 in 100 cars push fluid out the tube it just very seldom happens
2nd as far as there BS rules what about the new belts every 2 years,or a trans shield every 5 when there has been no damage,or a flex plate every 2 years where is the logic in that there is none but hey every one is entitled to there opinion


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Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: MR_P_BODY] #597972
02/13/10 10:51 AM
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So you plug the tube.... are you putting a catch can
on the vent.... its not mandatory.... do you have
one now... just asking



no but maybe i should, i don't want to be that 1 in a 100 car to have this happen to as said earlier.

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: modified1090] #597973
02/13/10 10:59 AM
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don't get me wrong, i think some of these rules are stupid and some times premature, like seat belts every two years.
but what if maybe NHRA puts these rules in place because the had an issue in the past. i think they make these rules in a reactive manner rather than a proactive.
either way its a small price to put on your life.

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: maximum entropy] #597974
02/13/10 11:04 AM
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and yet, they still allow rubber transmission cooler hose, which i HAVE seen fail numerous times. we need more rules. now. [/quote you should go get a new head gasket. you just blew yours
lol

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: MR_P_BODY] #597975
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just another of there many STUPID rules
sorry but in my opinion NHRA doesn't have a clue!



how many live would have been lost if top fuel used the safety rules from the 60's running the speeds of the 01's?
a locking dip stick may not save your life someday but it may save someone's and that would make this all worth it.

i think NHRA does have a clue!

people are stupid some times, i'm not saying that you are and your car may never miss a beat even with out the locking dipstick, think about the person next to you going down the track. is he stupid? will this rule stop his car from puking trans fluid under his rear tires and stop him from darting across the lane into you!
just my




So you plug the tube.... are you putting a catch can
on the vent.... its not mandatory.... do you have
one now... just asking



yup i have a catch can and i know some ah racers have them also.

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: ro23car] #597976
02/13/10 11:13 AM
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I dont think they think things through enough if they want a locking dipstick than why not require a tube and catch can on the vent.
The trans will push fluid out the vent long before it pushes it out the tube.
Then thy might as well say we should have a locking engine oil dip stick as I have seen a lot of those get pushed out and spray oil from problems with crankcase venting.
Again I think they are just to quick to jump and say we need a rule.


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Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: dusturbd340W5] #597977
02/13/10 11:42 AM
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Next year, there wasn't enough catch cans available. Engine dip sticks are next. Answer to it all is run a 4 speed.



it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: 1AARCUDA] #597978
02/13/10 01:17 PM
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I was a NHRA tech inspector for 6 years. A lot of the rules in the book don't make sense to some people because their car doesn't have that particular problem. All of the rules in the book has someones blood on it. I don't think I should have to buy a aftermarket balancer for my 10 sec. 440 because the stock one has a lip that makes it impossible for the outer ring to run off, but a high winding 283 Chevy will throw one off in a second. I have never see fluid come out of the top of a 727 dipstick either, but their others that will do it. The 10 sec. Chevy guys that run Powerglides are probably mad because they have to run a tranny shield because 727's are so prone to blow up. The rules are hard to understand sometimes and costly, but they have to be fair to all. Now the 2 year seat belt rule is another story in my opinion, but I won't go there.

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: drag440] #597979
02/13/10 02:21 PM
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...... Now the 2 year seat belt rule is another story in my opinion, but I won't go there.




I'm glad you said that...lol....that is the one that bugs me the most.

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: Quicksilver440] #597980
02/13/10 03:16 PM
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Those who bought the ATI locking dipstick,by the description it doesn't measure it just locks .
Is that what you guys got ?
Those of us running the CSR shield Cope shows one to fit the shield .Any one have it on yet ?
Don

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Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: 10 o to go] #597981
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Yes, the ATI doesn`t measure it only plugs the dipstick hole and locks. Its the one I bought it was $11.73 but the $10 to ship it seemed a bit high to me. I don`t check the fluid level that often since it rarely changes so I figured it would be fine.


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Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: 10 o to go] #597982
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The seat belt rule is the reason I am not paying my NHRA dues this year.

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: 10 o to go] #597983
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Those of us running the CSR shield Cope shows one to fit the shield .Any one have it on yet ?
Don




I'm running copes locking stick with the CSR shield...fits great.

Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: Quicksilver440] #597984
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I still have the front vent but never seen any fluid out of it. The rear vent that I added will lose a little once in a while. The first time I seen that it had lost fluid I fabbed an aluminum catch can. I might check it 3 or 4 times a year and very seldom get more than a few drops of fluid.
As for the dipstick, never had a problem!

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Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: 5280Dart] #597985
02/14/10 05:50 PM
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mancini dipstick #MRE676 doesnt fit worth a ****.
Plan on pie cutting the tube, bend to fit and weld it up.

And yes, it is a B.S. rule.




Read this and thought OH great I have that stick/tub on order.

Well mine fits great, hugs the trans and clears the header

And yes it is the Mancini 676 setup

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Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: moparts] #597986
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And over the trans

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1970 Challenger R/T 503/727


Re: Trans tube dipstick lockdown for NHRA [Re: drag440] #597987
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I was a NHRA tech inspector for 6 years. A lot of the rules in the book don't make sense to some people because their car doesn't have that particular problem. All of the rules in the book has someones blood on it. I don't think I should have to buy a aftermarket balancer for my 10 sec. 440 because the stock one has a lip that makes it impossible for the outer ring to run off, but a high winding 283 Chevy will throw one off in a second. I have never see fluid come out of the top of a 727 dipstick either, but their others that will do it. The 10 sec. Chevy guys that run Powerglides are probably mad because they have to run a tranny shield because 727's are so prone to blow up. The rules are hard to understand sometimes and costly, but they have to be fair to all. Now the 2 year seat belt rule is another story in my opinion, but I won't go there.



Funny about the rule on the harmonic balancer. When the rule first came out, I had a conversation about it with Herb McCandless and he said the only one he had ever seen fail was the one Grumpy Jenkins had used in which he had modified it.

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