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Reconditioning bolts #596882
01/28/10 10:58 PM
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Specifically bolts, nuts, and washers for steering and front brake drum brake hardware. Better off just buying new, or is there a do-it-yourself method by soaking in a solution or something? I was thinking a wire wheel, but that seems to polish them in a way. Not a show car, just a driver, but the hardware still has to be cleaned up.

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Scamp451] #596883
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the evaporust stuff seems to work pretty good if ur just de-rusting. i was a skeptic at first but it works. If you want to replate them i usually glass bead and polish with a fine wire wheel then replate. had good luck so far

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Scamp451] #596884
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Specifically bolts, nuts, and washers for steering and front brake drum brake hardware. Better off just buying new, or is there a do-it-yourself method by soaking in a solution or something? I was thinking a wire wheel, but that seems to polish them in a way. Not a show car, just a driver, but the hardware still has to be cleaned up.




Eastwood blackening agent looks really nice. It's basically a black phosphate.

To get the rust off check out this thread: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post5724264

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Scamp451] #596885
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I like putting them in an electric drill and spinning them against the wire wheel on my bench grinder...they get a nice "burnished" look...then you can use as-is or blacken or paint or whatever... Of course, the threads then have to be cleaned and unless you have a real big chuck, you'll have to do it by hand...If your using the wire wheel on, say, four bolts, one of them will inevitably fly across the shop...that's when the goggles come in real handy!

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Scatransit] #596886
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Evaporust works great.

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Neil] #596887
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we used a tumbler with sand. let it sit over night and they come out looking good.


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Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: mopars_1] #596888
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Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #596889
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to blacken the hardware, use machinest tool black, $50 bottle will do all the hardware on the car.

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: ademon] #596890
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Were can you get machinists tool black?

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: rayztoy] #596891
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Were can you get machinists tool black?




http://www.mcmaster.com/#tool-blackening-kits/=5lsyz2

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: ademon] #596892
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to blacken the hardware, use machinest tool black, $50 bottle will do all the hardware on the car.




What is the difference between machinist tool black and rustoleum? New to this process.

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #596893
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Wild_RT, did you do the parts in your pic with the tool blackening kit?

The link you provided says the blackening kit is for indoor use. How does this stuff hold up on cars?


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Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Slim Smitty] #596894
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Wild_RT, did you do the parts in your pic with the tool blackening kit?

The link you provided says the blackening kit is for indoor use. How does this stuff hold up on cars?




No they were done in Black Oxide... I used Tool Black on all the hardware on my Challenger... It holds up OK in this (California) enviroment but I doubt it would do well in a damp enviroment...

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Slim Smitty] #596895
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Wild_RT, did you do the parts in your pic with the tool blackening kit?

The link you provided says the blackening kit is for indoor use. How does this stuff hold up on cars?


I used it on a bunch of small hardware under the hood, carb hardware, hood latch, bolts for alt/p/s bracket ect.. holds up well in IL, i don't drive my car in the rain/ stored indoors. after you dip or brush the the part, rinse off good and spray down with wd-40 pat dry good to go.

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: ademon] #596896
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hood release

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Scamp451] #596897
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I picked up a tumber and green triangle media from Harbor Freight, then some Rust Away, and then a phosphate kit from Eastwood. I have about a 100 bucks into this so I do know after paying 36 bucks today for some nuts and bolts that this is worth doing when theres spare time. The bolt reference manual is something extra but well worth having if you have a lot of hardware to identify. Also you can go to amk.com for bolt and nut pics of unidentified nuts and Bolts.

Pour a few inches of the rust away into tumber.
Pour entire contents of green triangle media into tumber. HF stocks therese.
Add bolts and hardware. 1-2 1/2 lbs. max hardware weight.
Tighten lid and shake, rattle for about 3-4 hours.

Take out bolts nuts, hardware and wash off.
Inspect. Ones with rust go back and do a little more.
Wash with fresh water.
Put on cookie sheet and dry at 180 for 15 minutes.
Take selected clean bolts and harware and put into green solution first.
If all at once, leave them in longer. Watch them turn black.
When they're really black, pull em out using tongs. Never use bare hands into chemicals.
Lay onto paper towels for about a half hour. Lightly wipe off dirty or uneven areas off with a small edge of paper towel. Lightly wipe off excess fluid on edges.

Now its time to seal them using the gold colored phosphate sealer.
Leave them in for 10-15 minutes if doing a batch all at once.
Take out with tongs and lay on paper towels.
Roll up parts in the paper towel covered and lay in a well ventilated area..outside if possible.
This lets the sealer grab on and dry onto them. I wait 24-48 hours before I feel they are really sealed.
Results...Looks just like you bought 50 bucks worth of new hardware.


I don't recommend sand blasting original OEM bolts and hardware. You may remove the markings that help identify where they belong on the vehicle. Remember to always use rubber gloves, goggles and tongs when dealing with these chemicals. It is re usable so pour it back into the original container if you took any out.

http://www.eastwood.com/metal-blackening-kit-with-diamond-clear.html

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Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Topcat] #596898
01/31/10 10:43 AM
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I use the green piramides in a vibrator with water, no chemicals. Works great removes all rust.

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #596899
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RANDY & GARY,
Thank you!

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: Challenger 1] #596900
01/31/10 01:28 PM
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for the guys tumbling their nuts. once the rust is removed the corrosion has left pitting behind, no?
what do you do about that? Im going with an AMK kit and will reuse original hardware where needed if its usable.

Re: Reconditioning bolts [Re: LimeliteAero] #596901
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Living in California we have pit free nuts....

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