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Reconditioning bolts

Posted By: Scamp451

Reconditioning bolts - 01/29/10 02:58 AM

Specifically bolts, nuts, and washers for steering and front brake drum brake hardware. Better off just buying new, or is there a do-it-yourself method by soaking in a solution or something? I was thinking a wire wheel, but that seems to polish them in a way. Not a show car, just a driver, but the hardware still has to be cleaned up.
Posted By: prochargedhemi

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/29/10 03:03 AM

the evaporust stuff seems to work pretty good if ur just de-rusting. i was a skeptic at first but it works. If you want to replate them i usually glass bead and polish with a fine wire wheel then replate. had good luck so far
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/29/10 03:11 AM

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Specifically bolts, nuts, and washers for steering and front brake drum brake hardware. Better off just buying new, or is there a do-it-yourself method by soaking in a solution or something? I was thinking a wire wheel, but that seems to polish them in a way. Not a show car, just a driver, but the hardware still has to be cleaned up.




Eastwood blackening agent looks really nice. It's basically a black phosphate.

To get the rust off check out this thread: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post5724264
Posted By: Scatransit

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/30/10 02:39 PM

I like putting them in an electric drill and spinning them against the wire wheel on my bench grinder...they get a nice "burnished" look...then you can use as-is or blacken or paint or whatever... Of course, the threads then have to be cleaned and unless you have a real big chuck, you'll have to do it by hand...If your using the wire wheel on, say, four bolts, one of them will inevitably fly across the shop...that's when the goggles come in real handy!
Posted By: Neil

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/30/10 04:21 PM

Evaporust works great.
Posted By: mopars_1

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/30/10 06:29 PM

we used a tumbler with sand. let it sit over night and they come out looking good.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/30/10 06:46 PM



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Posted By: ademon

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/30/10 07:14 PM

to blacken the hardware, use machinest tool black, $50 bottle will do all the hardware on the car.
Posted By: rayztoy

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/30/10 11:48 PM

Were can you get machinists tool black?
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/30/10 11:51 PM

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Were can you get machinists tool black?




http://www.mcmaster.com/#tool-blackening-kits/=5lsyz2
Posted By: Scamp451

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 02:33 AM

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to blacken the hardware, use machinest tool black, $50 bottle will do all the hardware on the car.




What is the difference between machinist tool black and rustoleum? New to this process.
Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 02:40 AM

Wild_RT, did you do the parts in your pic with the tool blackening kit?

The link you provided says the blackening kit is for indoor use. How does this stuff hold up on cars?
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 04:01 AM

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Wild_RT, did you do the parts in your pic with the tool blackening kit?

The link you provided says the blackening kit is for indoor use. How does this stuff hold up on cars?




No they were done in Black Oxide... I used Tool Black on all the hardware on my Challenger... It holds up OK in this (California) enviroment but I doubt it would do well in a damp enviroment...
Posted By: ademon

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 04:23 AM

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Wild_RT, did you do the parts in your pic with the tool blackening kit?

The link you provided says the blackening kit is for indoor use. How does this stuff hold up on cars?


I used it on a bunch of small hardware under the hood, carb hardware, hood latch, bolts for alt/p/s bracket ect.. holds up well in IL, i don't drive my car in the rain/ stored indoors. after you dip or brush the the part, rinse off good and spray down with wd-40 pat dry good to go.

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Posted By: ademon

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 04:24 AM

hood release

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Posted By: Topcat

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 04:30 AM

I picked up a tumber and green triangle media from Harbor Freight, then some Rust Away, and then a phosphate kit from Eastwood. I have about a 100 bucks into this so I do know after paying 36 bucks today for some nuts and bolts that this is worth doing when theres spare time. The bolt reference manual is something extra but well worth having if you have a lot of hardware to identify. Also you can go to amk.com for bolt and nut pics of unidentified nuts and Bolts.

Pour a few inches of the rust away into tumber.
Pour entire contents of green triangle media into tumber. HF stocks therese.
Add bolts and hardware. 1-2 1/2 lbs. max hardware weight.
Tighten lid and shake, rattle for about 3-4 hours.

Take out bolts nuts, hardware and wash off.
Inspect. Ones with rust go back and do a little more.
Wash with fresh water.
Put on cookie sheet and dry at 180 for 15 minutes.
Take selected clean bolts and harware and put into green solution first.
If all at once, leave them in longer. Watch them turn black.
When they're really black, pull em out using tongs. Never use bare hands into chemicals.
Lay onto paper towels for about a half hour. Lightly wipe off dirty or uneven areas off with a small edge of paper towel. Lightly wipe off excess fluid on edges.

Now its time to seal them using the gold colored phosphate sealer.
Leave them in for 10-15 minutes if doing a batch all at once.
Take out with tongs and lay on paper towels.
Roll up parts in the paper towel covered and lay in a well ventilated area..outside if possible.
This lets the sealer grab on and dry onto them. I wait 24-48 hours before I feel they are really sealed.
Results...Looks just like you bought 50 bucks worth of new hardware.


I don't recommend sand blasting original OEM bolts and hardware. You may remove the markings that help identify where they belong on the vehicle. Remember to always use rubber gloves, goggles and tongs when dealing with these chemicals. It is re usable so pour it back into the original container if you took any out.

http://www.eastwood.com/metal-blackening-kit-with-diamond-clear.html
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 02:43 PM

I use the green piramides in a vibrator with water, no chemicals. Works great removes all rust.
Posted By: rayztoy

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 05:24 PM



RANDY & GARY,
Thank you!
Posted By: LimeliteAero

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 05:28 PM

for the guys tumbling their nuts. once the rust is removed the corrosion has left pitting behind, no?
what do you do about that? Im going with an AMK kit and will reuse original hardware where needed if its usable.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 05:33 PM

Living in California we have pit free nuts....
Posted By: cdp

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 06:40 PM

here are restored underhood nuts, bolts and latches.

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Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 08:06 PM

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for the guys tumbling their nuts. once the rust is removed the corrosion has left pitting behind, no?
what do you do about that? Im going with an AMK kit and will reuse original hardware where needed if its usable.




Here's some hardware I did with green piramids and water. These were done in short time(3-4 hours), they can be almost spotless if you leave them in overnight.
I just paint the heads with a zinc spray and oil/antisieze on the threads. Holding up well in my car.



Did some heater clips and mounting nuts. Same deal here, honestly only a couple three hours in the vibrator. Actully 4.5 hours. Look at the time stamp on the pictures. Always in a hurry and I rush them. Not perfect but plenty good enough for me for my driver type cars.Clean and easy to do, I rinse them in my kitchen sink. lol
Better than trying to do it by hand.

Still wet from the rinse, dry em up and refinish any way you want.
Posted By: car48nut

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 08:49 PM

I have walnut shells crushed, I used these with a few bolts and nuts in a vibrator tumbler over night and it did next to nothing. should I have added water or some other chemical to the shells first? Thanks
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 08:59 PM

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I have walnut shells crushed, I used these with a few bolts and nuts in a vibrator tumbler over night and it did next to nothing. should I have added water or some other chemical to the shells first? Thanks




Shells are for real delicate parts and no I don't think water would help.
Posted By: LimeliteAero

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 09:18 PM

Challenger1,
the pic of the rusty hardware looks like thet were pretty bad. did you have pitting issues? and how bad was it after the clean up treatment?
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 09:31 PM

Not much pitting, it's all the same hardware in both pictures. You can see some of the black oxide finsih? still on them. I don't like to let it run for days and wear off the entire finish because I only have used paint so far to protect. some items I don't refinish either. Oil them up and install. That's as clean as I get them, there wet in that picture dry em(blow dry, although I like the oven idea) and paint the heads.

BTW I have used it to strip paint off of some real old detailed brass hinges and door pulls. It worked great and never hurt the hardware at all. Looked brand new every nook and cranny. Used the same piramids and vibrator. Very handy.
Posted By: ta340

Re: Reconditioning bolts - 01/31/10 11:39 PM

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here are restored underhood nuts, bolts and latches.



who did these for you and how long.
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