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Correct engine color 67 440? #596704 01/28/10 08:18 PM 01/28/10 08:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 218 NC R rickmoore69 OP enthusiast
rickmoore69 OP enthusiast R Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 218 NC	Fixing to drop an engine in soon to a 67 R/T. The engine is not painted yet and I want it to be the correct color. Have looked at several websites and pictures and "restored" photos, some are street hemi orange, some are turquoise. Which is correct? Mine is an early production, August 66 if that matters.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: rickmoore69] #596705 01/28/10 08:20 PM 01/28/10 08:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Turquoise with Chrome Valve covers and a black wrinkle dual snorkel air cleaner (no they weren't turquoise like in the 67 sales brochure!).

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: rickmoore69] #596706 01/28/10 08:20 PM 01/28/10 08:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	All '67 big blocks (except HEMI) are TURQUOISE!!

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: 6bblgt] #596707 01/28/10 09:23 PM 01/28/10 09:23 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon D Dougsmopars top fuel
Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	Not all 67's had chrome valve covers. There is nothing in mother mopars lit that states chrome valve covers. 99% were dealer installed at time of purchase. 99% of all 67's had painted valve covers that matched motor color.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: Dougsmopars] #596708 01/28/10 10:17 PM 01/28/10 10:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: Not all 67's had chrome valve covers. There is nothing in mother mopars lit that states chrome valve covers. 99% were dealer installed at time of purchase. 99% of all 67's had painted valve covers that matched motor color. Sorry, other than the "never say never" safety clause I'll add in for the possible oddball turquoise VC's that might have escaped onto a production line 67 GTX HP 440 (I've never seen a single documented example), I completely dissagree with you. Chrome Valve covers were standard equipment on all 67 GTX & R/T HP 440's and were installed on the production line, not the dealers.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #596709 01/28/10 10:33 PM 01/28/10 10:33 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon D Dougsmopars top fuel
Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	show me the documentation. Many people on many forums have looked into this and no one has ever found anything from mother mopar stating these cars were produced with chrome valve covers on the assembly line. I've been to many mopar nat's and looked at countless 100 point 67 X's and spoken to there owners. 99% of them had painted valve covers. A few had the orignal sale's paperwork showing dealer installed chrome valve covers. Again show me the documents.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: Dougsmopars] #596710 01/28/10 10:40 PM 01/28/10 10:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: show me the documentation. Many people on many forums have looked into this and no one has ever found anything from mother mopar stating these cars were produced with chrome valve covers on the assembly line. I've been to many mopar nat's and looked at countless 100 point 67 X's and spoken to there owners. 99% of them had painted valve covers. A few had the orignal sale's paperwork showing dealer installed chrome valve covers. Again show me the documents. So you are saying you have confirmed that 99% of all original GTX's came with painted covers? Please fill me in on how you accomplished that feat. As far as having seen "Countless 100 point 67 GTX's" go, it doesn't matter how many restored cars you've seen, that doesn't mean they are original or correct. Survivors with good history would be the place to look for those types of details.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #596711 01/28/10 10:43 PM 01/28/10 10:43 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon D Dougsmopars top fuel
Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	There not 100 point cars if there not correct. I don't care how pretty you make a 4 speed car look if it was born an auto it will never be a 100 car at the nats.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: Dougsmopars] #596712 01/28/10 10:49 PM 01/28/10 10:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	So what class at the Mopar Nationals are judged on a 100 point standard? Just curious.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #596713 01/29/10 01:17 AM 01/29/10 01:17 AM
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Beebuzzn mopar B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 454 PNW	Quote: Turquoise with Chrome Valve covers and a black wrinkle duwl snorkel air cleaner (no they weren't turquoise like in the 67 sales brochure!). Had 2 67 GTX's both very original 4spd cars back in the day and they were just as it says above. Never saw different on a 67 GTX. Now my 67 R/T's engine was orange and had big black valve covers on it.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: Dougsmopars] #596714 01/29/10 01:25 AM 01/29/10 01:25 AM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: show me the documentation. Many people on many forums have looked into this and no one has ever found anything from mother mopar stating these cars were produced with chrome valve covers on the assembly line. Again show me the documents. 5767139-67_GTX_2_600.jpg (54 downloads) Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #596715 01/29/10 02:46 AM 01/29/10 02:46 AM
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broncobra mopar B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 550 ne	Quote: Quote: show me the documentation. Many people on many forums have looked into this and no one has ever found anything from mother mopar stating these cars were produced with chrome valve covers on the assembly line. Again show me the documents. That's one of the hardest hitting avatars I've ever seen!

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #596716 01/29/10 03:09 AM 01/29/10 03:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Thanks for digging that up R/T

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: rickmoore69] #596717 01/29/10 09:41 AM 01/29/10 09:41 AM
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MLR426 master M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL	Quote: Fixing to drop an engine in soon to a 67 R/T. The engine is not painted yet and I want it to be the correct color. Have looked at several websites and pictures and "restored" photos, some are street hemi orange, some are turquoise. Which is correct? Mine is an early production, August 66 if that matters. Rick are you in Inman or close ? logan426 Martin Wimberly mwimberly@radiac.com

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: MLR426] #596718 01/29/10 02:32 PM 01/29/10 02:32 PM
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64 Savoy member 6 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 30 Oakbank, Manitoba, Canada	I am the second owner of a canadian 67 R/T and it is well documented (sales receipt, build sheet etc.) with no mention of installing chrome valve covers at the dealer. It has chrome valve covers and wrinkle dual snorkel air cleaner and engine is turquoise. Nothing on the build sheet. Hope this helps. MW

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: 64 Savoy] #596719 01/29/10 08:23 PM 01/29/10 08:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 218 NC R rickmoore69 OP enthusiast
rickmoore69 OP enthusiast R Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 218 NC	I believe I'm going to go with the turquoise and chrome valve covers. I have a dual snorkle, wrinkle paint air cleaner also. Logan426, I'm right about 100 miles from Inman, just outside Hickory.

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: rickmoore69] #596720 01/29/10 08:28 PM 01/29/10 08:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	If you are looking for a set of correct chrome VC's here is a set, they can be hard to find in good shape like these, they are not just "generic" chrome valve covers. So far the price is quite reasonable for them as far as "going rate" is concerned. 67 440 HP Chrome Valve Covers

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #596721 01/29/10 09:53 PM 01/29/10 09:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	but aren't those a-body valve covers?

Re: Correct engine color 67 440? [Re: 6bblgt] #596722 01/29/10 09:56 PM 01/29/10 09:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Maybe Dan, I didn't scrutinize them, I just went by his description

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