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Also what is known about this car? Looks to be steel 64 Hemi car, pic enclosed. Hood appears to be Hemi not Maxi. Owner or driver Bill Dill. Note: picture description stated early 64. How early? That I do not know, but it was racing a 64 Thunderbolt. I also have a theory that indeed some cars were replacements for Maxi cars.

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Here are somemore 64 Plymouth hardtops that were posted before on Moparts. In the first pic, this is a real 64 Hemi Plymouth hardtop racing a 64 thunder-bolt, and I believe the owner was from Minnesota.

I'm not sure about these other two pics though because there were several racers that raced 64 Dodge & Plymouth hardtops, be it max-wedge or hemi cars, and would be real hard to document them just by old photo's unless you personally knew of the car.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/4864489-scan0029_001.jpg

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/4865455-2017261-TRITAK1.jpg

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/4883969-scan0258-vi.jpg

I also recall Dave Wren racing a 64 Plymouth hardtop out of the north-west.

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Depsite the hood scoop, the Tritak & Morgan car was a Max Wedge as far as I know, and so was Luke Garner's Gratiot Auto Supply car.

Dave Wren raced the '64 Plymouth as a one year only rule change thing in 1969. It started off as a plain old Fury hardtop according to Dave Koffel, who built the car for him.

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(Race&Resto) - The Ramchargers race team had a couple of 64 Dodge's, one was a 64 max-wedge hardtop, and the other was a 64 Hemi sedan 2% car.

(sixpakdodge) - I believe the 2% car started out as a Max Wedge.

I personally don't think it ever had a max-wedge engine in it, or at least raced with one, because I've never seen any old photo's to confirm this. But I do believe this 64 Dodge sedan was slated to become a max-wedge car, because it had a max-wedge scoop on it, but it never made it out the door. I believe it was given to the Ramcharger's team and converted to the first Hemi mule car.

That's my theory, unless someone can provide some photo's of this 64 Ramcharger sedan with a max-wedge engine shot? Infact I could have bought this 64 Hemi sedan from an Iowa seller in the late 80's, but Mike Guffey eventually ended up buying it about a year later. I talked with him several times over the next couple of years about this car, we discussed several things on it and he told me there was no VIN plate or fender tag on the car, and he did find a November/63 build date under the rear package tray.

So take that info for what it is, unless someone knows one of the Ramcharger team members that remembers how this car was built exactly? It would be interesting to find out the build dates of the other 64 Dodge & Plymouth 2% cars, (four cars were built, two Dodge's & two Plymouth's).

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All 4 of the 2% cars started off as Max Wedges.

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Are those 3705 Carters on a Hemi manifold?

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3861's almost identical to a 3705 though.

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All 4 of the 2% cars started off as Max Wedges.

They were MW BODIES but became the first Hemi cars. All had Hemi's installed and were tested in Calif. a week before the Winternats and as Cahill told me "They couldn't fall out of a tree".
All four 2% cars were single headlite with MW Scoops.
The 2% is a misnomer, they were more than 2% - They were the first Factory AWB's !
Reed in Neb.

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You have to remember as well that the Hemi's had the inverted shock towers where the Max Wedges did not, so they could not be "leftover Max Wedge" bodies. This wouldn't even be possible if you think about it. The cars came down the line with every other Slant 6, 318, 361 and etc. They were not sequentially tagged.

The only reason I could see these cars being built is to sway Nascar, since the teams were running hardtops in '64.

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I wish someone would step up with the dealer codes, we might be able to figure something out.

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