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Adjstable pinion snubber ? #589726 01/21/10 08:13 AM 01/21/10 08:13 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio L Lew OP enthusiast
Lew OP enthusiast L Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio	(E) body adjustable snubber clearance? for race and cruising, if there is a differance, this not a drag car, just hopeing for a little help on the track with street tires.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: Lew] #589727 01/21/10 08:44 AM 01/21/10 08:44 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 843 Suffolk,VA I ireland383 super stock
ireland383 super stock I Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 843 Suffolk,VA	I set mine an inch away from the floorboard. The problem is you will spin easier with the snubber. You need sticky tires.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: ireland383] #589728 01/21/10 09:18 AM 01/21/10 09:18 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL M MLR426 master
MLR426 master M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL	Quote: I set mine an inch away from the floorboard. The problem is you will spin easier with the snubber. You need sticky tires. But with out the snubber you have a better chance of breaking things. logan426

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: Lew] #589729 01/21/10 10:08 AM 01/21/10 10:08 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	Ideally, it would be cool to rig a solenoid of some sort, to de-activate and lower it as soon as you're done racing for the day, so you can get the suspension travel back. Ah, that's too much like work.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: buildanother] #589730 01/21/10 12:11 PM 01/21/10 12:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 283 N.E. England Roppa440 super street
Roppa440 super street Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 283 N.E. England	I adjust mine to within a quarter inch of the floor when on the track and as far away from the floor as possible on the road. 2002 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 LS1 2011 Alpha Romeo Giulietta Veloce 1.6 JTD Because running a Mopar in the UK is getting TOO expensive!!

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: Roppa440] #589731 01/21/10 12:21 PM 01/21/10 12:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,861 Witness Protection Program Kudakidd master
Kudakidd master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,861 Witness Protection Program	The problem with MP's POS is that you can't lower it enough for street use. And if you are going to use one, weld a gusset between the base and the vertical tower with all the useless holes. They bend real easily. Thanks MP!

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: Kudakidd] #589732 01/21/10 12:41 PM 01/21/10 12:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,719 Space Station #5 471Magnum master
471Magnum master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,719 Space Station #5	Quote: The problem with MP's POS is that you can't lower it enough for street use. And if you are going to use one, weld a gusset between the base and the vertical tower with all the useless holes. They bend real easily. Thanks MP! The screw in type only offers slightly more clearance. If you're running stock ride height, you pretty much have to use a stock snubber. Bottoming out a snubber on the street will really bruise your kidneys. -Jim I can fix it... my old man is a television repairman. He's got the ultimate set of tools... I can fix it. Currently Mopar-less

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: Lew] #589733 01/21/10 12:49 PM 01/21/10 12:49 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,324 Western Pa joewhite440 pro stock
joewhite440 pro stock Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,324 Western Pa	The pinion Snubbers work great at the 1 inch adjustment. Just make sure your leaf springs are not warn out or weak. Sometimes you need to upgrade to the SS springs or just replace your originals. Soft tires or slicks are a must on the track. Joe Sr.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: joewhite440] #589734 01/21/10 04:57 PM 01/21/10 04:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 283 N.E. England Roppa440 super street
Roppa440 super street Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 283 N.E. England	I cut my MP snubber so that it gave me the correct adjustability I needed for a stock ride height. 2002 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 LS1 2011 Alpha Romeo Giulietta Veloce 1.6 JTD Because running a Mopar in the UK is getting TOO expensive!!

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: MLR426] #589735 01/21/10 05:36 PM 01/21/10 05:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,449 Florida STAYcation dOoC The village idiot's idiot
dOoC The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,449 Florida STAYcation	Quote: Quote: I set mine an inch away from the floorboard. The problem is you will spin easier with the snubber. You need sticky tires. But with out the snubber you have a better chance of breaking things. logan426 But WITH the correct rear springs .. you do NOT need the PS. A PS is nothing but a band-aid for a problem that can be solved with PROPER EQUIPMENT.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: dOoC] #589736 01/21/10 06:04 PM 01/21/10 06:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,044 At a gas station near you B badblack68 master
badblack68 master B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,044 At a gas station near you	I've sold quite a few of these Sox and Martin style dana 60 pinion snubbers without any complaints. They are manufactured right here in the U.S.A. and have the gusset that I think Mark was talking about. I've never recieved any feedback on street or strip use so I can't comment on how good or bad it functions. I usually say no news is good news. Has anybody used this Sox and Martin style snubber and care to comment on it? Good or bad.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: badblack68] #589737 01/21/10 06:08 PM 01/21/10 06:08 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Bottoming out a snubber on the street will really bruise your kidneys. Yep, PITA on the street. Not worth the $$ or the hassle IMO. I installed one on a '71 Cuda a few years back and it was worthless.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: dOoC] #589738 01/21/10 06:15 PM 01/21/10 06:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,013 South Park, Pa. 68LAR master
68LAR master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,013 South Park, Pa.	Quote: But WITH the correct rear springs .. you do NOT need the PS. A PS is nothing but a band-aid for a problem that can be solved with PROPER EQUIPMENT. I don't use one. When I did it made matters worse. If you think about how the rear suspension works, the snubber won't touch the floor board at launch anyway. The only reason the Ma Mopar put them on was to compensate for over loads in the trunk of a street car. It kept the back end from bottoming out. When you launch a Mopar, because of the short front spring segment,(which acts like a traction bar), the back of the car raises. Unlike a Ford or Chevy, that squat. If the back of the car raises, how is the pinion snubber going to come in contact with the floor board? I run SS springs. My back end raises almost 3" at launch. With OE HD springs the same thing happens, but not as much lift in some cases. Use the snubber for a door stop. It'll get more use. 4 speed street legal. Best time 10.99 @ 124 mph on 93 octane pump gas @ 3926# total weight

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: 68LAR] #589739 01/21/10 06:41 PM 01/21/10 06:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,196 Harrisburg, Pa. screamindriver master
screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,196 Harrisburg, Pa.	Also, someone had mentioned that when the snubber was in contact with the body at the top end it felt like the car was "high centered" and leaned the car to one side or the other...No thanks...

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: 68LAR] #589740 01/21/10 07:07 PM 01/21/10 07:07 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,426 weymouth,mass. M meepmeep70 master
meepmeep70 master M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,426 weymouth,mass.	Quote: Quote: But WITH the correct rear springs .. you do NOT need the PS. A PS is nothing but a band-aid for a problem that can be solved with PROPER EQUIPMENT. I don't use one. When I did it made matters worse. If you think about how the rear suspension works, the snubber won't touch the floor board at launch anyway. The only reason the Ma Mopar put them on was to compensate for over loads in the trunk of a street car. It kept the back end from bottoming out. When you launch a Mopar, because of the short front spring segment,(which acts like a traction bar), the back of the car raises. Unlike a Ford or Chevy, that squat. If the back of the car raises, how is the pinion snubber going to come in contact with the floor board? I run SS springs. My back end raises almost 3" at launch. With OE HD springs the same thing happens, but not as much lift in some cases. Use the snubber for a door stop. It'll get more use. yep,don't use one either,when i punch my pedal the back end raises up

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: Lew] #589741 01/21/10 08:59 PM 01/21/10 08:59 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA	I have mine about 1/2" for the track. I've bent up others in the past, so I make them. I get decent lift at the launch considering the overhang, weight, 3.23 gear, stock converter and the attidude of the car at rest. For what it cost, its worth while 5751168-Launch.JPG (168 downloads)

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: Lew] #589742 01/21/10 09:50 PM 01/21/10 09:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	I've used adjustable snubbers on a few cars with springs that were a little on the soft side. All were on lowest setting or even shortened to fit.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? [Re: buildanother] #589743 01/22/10 12:35 AM 01/22/10 12:35 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	That's what is odd to me. The only cars they really help (crutch, cough, cough) they don't fit! With stock springs and the lowest setting you still have to cut the rubber down! I used a cut down upper bump stop on mine. IIRC, the DC Chassis Manual only recommends them for manual transmission cars anyway?!

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? #589744 01/22/10 12:56 AM 01/22/10 12:56 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,324 Western Pa joewhite440 pro stock
joewhite440 pro stock Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,324 Western Pa	Lots of people use to run them when you use to have so many Mopars with stock springs. That was before everybody could afford SS springs. They did help keep the pinion from twisting upward and braking ujoints and bolts and with Wheel Hop. I love the SS springs and the way they lift the whole car. Best thing Mopar ever did for suspension. But not very many cars came with them stock.

Re: Adjstable pinion snubber ? #589745 01/22/10 02:11 AM 01/22/10 02:11 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Just sold mine it sat too high at my ride height, actually held the rear of the car up at the lowest setting. I'll be making a custom one if I go back to one again. I will most likely go to Cal-Tracs. The mopar performance work when set up right, but the ride height would be too high for my liking. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...RK%3AMESOX%3AIT Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

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