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Quest for the tens. One move at a time... #587734 01/19/10 05:14 PM 01/19/10 05:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 150 South Carolina, United States C carolinacuda OP member
carolinacuda OP member C Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 150 South Carolina, United States	Whats up fellas. Im sure im in the same boat as alot of yall. Very little $$ and I cant afford to make all the changes I neeed to so you make one change at a time. So you try to pick the right move when you do get some $. Like alot of street guys I want to see tens. So far my best is 11.49 @118mph with a 1.55 60ft. It's a 74 cuda with a basic 440, stock susp with 275 M/T street radials. 90/10's up front and clamped springs with snubber in rear. More info on motor. 446 with trw's, Indy Ez's stock port, Vict Int, 850 demon, Hughes solid flat 572/579 252/256 @50 cam, 3.91gears and TCI 3800 stall. Hooker Comp headers with 3' exhaust. I regret some things I've done and like some things as well. This spring I plan on making some more changes as i do every year. Just not sure whats next. Motor work, Susp upgrades, different Stall, head porting. Just cant afford to do it all yet. Am i running ok with what i got? seen guys with more run less and guys with less run faster. What would be my most benefecial move. Your is appreciated here. Last edited by carolinacuda; 01/19/10 05:15 PM.

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: carolinacuda] #587735 01/19/10 05:52 PM 01/19/10 05:52 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 705 Michigan H Hemiroid super stock
Hemiroid super stock H Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 705 Michigan	I'd be taking a long, hard look at the converter. I've never had much luck with TCI personally. Converters make or break combos and I believe a quality converter purpose built for your combo with more stall speed will pick your combo up.

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: Hemiroid] #587736 01/19/10 05:53 PM 01/19/10 05:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,442 LOWELL IN Q QWK_ENUF top fuel
QWK_ENUF top fuel Q Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,442 LOWELL IN	5746086-norwalkjpeg.jpg (44 downloads) WAXER

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: Hemiroid] #587737 01/19/10 05:56 PM 01/19/10 05:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY 9 9 Sec Phill On a road near you
9 Sec Phill On a road near you 9 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY	Quote: I'd be taking a long, hard look at the converter. I've never had much luck with TCI personally. Converters make or break combos and I believe a quality converter purpose built for your combo with more stall speed will pick your combo up. It will cost you about 1k for a good converter. But its money well spent! Drop the 60' times and the rest will soon follow ....Phill

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: QWK_ENUF] #587738 01/19/10 05:59 PM 01/19/10 05:59 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 354 Livonia Michigan 440dart enthusiast
440dart enthusiast Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 354 Livonia Michigan	I would look at head porting, before the convertor Yes I live in Michigan, so there is still 1 light on

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: 440dart] #587739 01/19/10 06:45 PM 01/19/10 06:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place	I vote converter, first and foremost, too! You don't have to spend a grand...if you want to keep the car streetable, call Dynamic (Frank Lupo) and order a 9.5" for your combo. I think they're around $600. Or watch for a used (from a trusted seller) 8" if more race only.

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: cudadoug] #587740 01/19/10 07:51 PM 01/19/10 07:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,256 Salisbury North Carolina 8secDart pro stock
8secDart pro stock Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,256 Salisbury North Carolina	Snubber and converter in the trash.Call Kenny at PTC for a converter.A good port job.Should put it right in the 10s.

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: 8secDart] #587741 01/19/10 08:55 PM 01/19/10 08:55 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Snubber and converter in the trash.Call Kenny at PTC for a converter.A good port job.Should put it right in the 10s. 100%.......and I'd do the porting last.....PTC does a great job, although what they send is usually on the tight side......so I typically ask for something about 500RPM higher than what I want..... If you can go 120MPH, it can get into the 10's......and with a better converter, it'll ET better and I bet it'll pick up 1 or 2MPH, so you should be close.......

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... #587742 01/19/10 09:49 PM 01/19/10 09:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,495 Oregon City, OR Baxter61 top fuel
Baxter61 top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,495 Oregon City, OR	Im gonna borrow from the import guys on this one and say slap some stickers on it! Every import ive seen at a car show that had stickers on it the owner told me it ran 9s or 10s. Cheap hp in my book!

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: Baxter61] #587743 01/19/10 10:34 PM 01/19/10 10:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca M mikeysmopars top fuel
mikeysmopars top fuel M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca	Quote: Im gonna borrow from the import guys on this one and say slap some stickers on it! Every import ive seen at a car show that had stickers on it the owner told me it ran 9s or 10s. Cheap hp in my book! There's always ONE! Thats Great! I say open those heads and force it out, The converter will think it bigger! Founder and CEO of the Central Valley Mopar Drag Pack

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: carolinacuda] #587744 01/19/10 11:03 PM 01/19/10 11:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 691 ohio 1 1Bad440 mopar
1Bad440 mopar 1 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 691 ohio	Quote: It's a 74 cuda with a basic 440, stock susp with 275 M/T street radials. 90/10's up front and clamped springs with snubber in rear. More info on motor. 446 with trw's, Indy Ez's stock port, Vict Int, 850 demon, Hughes solid flat 572/579 252/256 @50 cam, 3.91gears and TCI 3800 stall. Hooker Comp headers with 3' exhaust. How heavy is it? I would think that combo should be knocking at the 10 sec zone if it was sorted out.

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: 440dart] #587745 01/19/10 11:13 PM 01/19/10 11:13 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: I would look at head porting, before the convertor converter at your power range isnt going to make or break it. you need to port those heads to flow much better to pickup.head flow produces hp. i picked up .4 from a bogus hemi head flowing 378 to 450 cfm. nothing else. 5746894-FishTanks65plymouthindycrossramintake054.JPG (30 downloads)

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: mikeysmopars] #587746 01/19/10 11:16 PM 01/19/10 11:16 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Quote: Im gonna borrow from the import guys on this one and say slap some stickers on it! Every import ive seen at a car show that had stickers on it the owner told me it ran 9s or 10s. Cheap hp in my book! There's always ONE! Thats Great! I say open those heads and force it out, The converter will think it bigger! absolutely this is true. 5746903-BEAVERSPRINGS65PLYMOUTHHEMIBURNOUT2009.bmp (58 downloads)

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: carolinacuda] #587747 01/19/10 11:24 PM 01/19/10 11:24 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,190 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,190 Bend,OR USA	I use to own a NHRA legal stocker that ran 11:20 at 119.MPH and change, it didn't have a adequate fuel delivery system on it to run any faster I found out after I sold it My message is I also agree on getting a better converter. I was offered a TCI on a racer deal back then and had to have it modified by Munsinger several times before it work as well as a Turbo Action. Take the time to call several different GOOD conveter companys and tell them about your combination and see what they recommend. I will bet money that the Turbo Action will be better than most and as good as any of them Your MPH is better than your ET and 60 ft. times, is the car spinning the tires now? If so fix that first before making any other changes Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: carolinacuda] #587748 01/19/10 11:50 PM 01/19/10 11:50 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Right now your .3 slow based on the MPH, that would suggest a chassis issue... but it could be a fuel issue also if your running out on the top end... I would try to find out whats wrong now

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #587749 01/20/10 12:11 AM 01/20/10 12:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 I Live Here
Quicksilver440 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	sounds like a street car.....I'll bet the converter is the one thing you can change and see big results. Is this a 10" converter...thats the biggest compromise in most street cars (mine included)? Last edited by Quicksilver440; 01/20/10 12:14 AM.

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: Quicksilver440] #587750 01/20/10 12:17 AM 01/20/10 12:17 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 528 N.W. Indiana DblOJoe mopar
DblOJoe mopar Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 528 N.W. Indiana	My vote's for the converter. Get a 8" and you won't regret it.

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: DblOJoe] #587751 01/20/10 12:24 AM 01/20/10 12:24 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA 493_DART master
493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	Another converter vote here. And you DONT have to spend $1k on one. I bought a used TCT 9.5" for way less than that , and my car picked up 3 TENTHS--------on just the converter. Call dynamic / Tct / PTC . also what is your compression ratio? those heads and that cam will definitely go 10's with the right combo.

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: 493_DART] #587752 01/20/10 12:51 AM 01/20/10 12:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	We would make a good race as my best et in my 63 Sport Fury is 11.49 @ 116. I have a basic .030 over 440 (446) close to your build but I use 906 heads and the MP .557 cam. Funny as you have 2 more mph then me and a better 60 as my best is 1.57 yet I run as fast an et as you. I run a 9.5 Dynamic converter and love it in my street car. I drive it all the time as I drive it much more then I race it. Your car 60's good for mid 11's and actually should et better with 118 mph. I have to agree that a good converter may help if it is matched to your combo. I would call the converter company you use and let them match one to your combo. I use Luppo's Dynamic but there are alot of good one's out there like PTC , ATI , Turbo Action and so on as you should be able to hit 11.20's now with your mph. Good luck , Ron

Re: Quest for the tens. One move at a time... [Re: 493_DART] #587753 01/20/10 12:51 AM 01/20/10 12:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 I Live Here
Quicksilver440 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	What does TCT stand for?

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