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Rim screws on the inside only??? #587403 01/19/10 11:51 AM 01/19/10 11:51 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 238 Roseau, MN 1976 Aspen OP enthusiast
1976 Aspen OP enthusiast Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 238 Roseau, MN	I just bought a set of CWI wheels and they are so pretty that I don't wanna clutter them up with rim screws on the outside. Is it OK to just put like eight screws on the inside instead??? It's a 3450 lb. bracket/street car that runs 10.20's with a 1.40 60' leaving off a trans brake. I'm running a M/T 29.5-11.5-15 ET Drag on a 10" rim with tubes. Any info/suggestions are appreciated!!!

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: 1976 Aspen] #587404 01/19/10 12:00 PM 01/19/10 12:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: I just bought a set of CWI wheels and they are so pretty that I don't wanna clutter them up with rim screws on the outside. Is it OK to just put like eight screws on the inside instead??? It's a 3450 lb. bracket/street car that runs 10.20's with a 1.40 60' leaving off a trans brake. I'm running a M/T 29.5-11.5-15 ET Drag on a 10" rim with tubes. Any info/suggestions are appreciated!!! Not a good move... as/if the tire slips on the outside it pulls the tire inboard and off the bead

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: 1976 Aspen] #587405 01/19/10 12:04 PM 01/19/10 12:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,288 Oregon sg66mopar pro stock
sg66mopar pro stock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,288 Oregon	I've never run a tire/wheel combo that small so maybe I'm way off base here but I think you need them on both sides. I wouldn't want the tire slipping on the outside and becoming distorted. I would use 16 rather than 8. I think it looks better and IMO the Cad plated Moroso's don't look too bad.

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #587406 01/19/10 12:04 PM 01/19/10 12:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 550 Ma Voluster mopar
Voluster mopar Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 550 Ma	You have 2 options use the screws on both sides Or loose the tubes and run Hi tack on beads of the tires But I wouldn't just do the inside with screws

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: Voluster] #587407 01/19/10 12:46 PM 01/19/10 12:46 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	I always run tubes in the tires with 8 screws on each side.Was having some problems,was told lose the tubes and screws. I now run my 34.5X17-16 without either.No more problems and I marked the wheel @ the valve stem & they have not moved. So I say try them without screws or tubes,you can always add them later if needed. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: 1976 Aspen] #587408 01/19/10 01:33 PM 01/19/10 01:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,185 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,185 Bend,OR USA	Quote: I just bought a set of CWI wheels and they are so pretty that I don't wanna clutter them up with rim screws on the outside. Is it OK to just put like eight screws on the inside instead??? It's a 3450 lb. bracket/street car that runs 10.20's with a 1.40 60' leaving off a trans brake. I'm running a M/T 29.5-11.5-15 ET Drag on a 10" rim with tubes. Any info/suggestions are appreciated!!! I did that several years back on some polish rims, I din't use the tubes though I now don't use tubes or rim screws so its another I wouldn't hesitate to try it, take your shoe polish and mark the rim and tire on the outside by the valve core and watch it for movement, mine move about one inch and stop Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: Cab_Burge] #587409 01/19/10 01:44 PM 01/19/10 01:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa rebel master
rebel master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa	i'm on my 6th season with my slicks only screwed on the inside. i was concerned at first about the slick moving on the outside so i used to paint dots on the slick & rim. they never moved. 32x14x15 slicks with 1.3 '60's.

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: rebel] #587410 01/19/10 01:53 PM 01/19/10 01:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,288 Oregon sg66mopar pro stock
sg66mopar pro stock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,288 Oregon	Interesting, no screws? Maybe if I ever get new wheels I'll give that a try.

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: sg66mopar] #587411 01/19/10 02:01 PM 01/19/10 02:01 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,505 PA moparacer master
moparacer master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,505 PA	Man I hate to get involved in a rim screw thread after what I have seen on other boards in the past. IMO either screw both sides or don't run screws at all. I dont run them anymore but the quickest I have been in door cars is the 9s. I think you really ave to be pushing the 60 ft envelope to need them and at that point you mayes well run bead locks if your that fast. 67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: moparacer] #587412 01/19/10 02:20 PM 01/19/10 02:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,586 Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana ProStDodge master
ProStDodge master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,586 Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana	I feel rim screws are cheap insurance against what "could" happen. And nothing to me says "hot car" better than rim screws on a street car. So I think they are attractive rather then "clutter" Although I will have to admit after several years of announcing, I have yet to see track cleanup or downtime due to a lack of rim screws.

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: ProStDodge] #587413 01/19/10 04:33 PM 01/19/10 04:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport I Live Here
ProSport I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	I have, a Mustang at Dragway42 lost the seal on one side of the tire and went over the guardrail due to having screws on one side of the rim. 340Rick turned me onto some nice screws from Fastenal that have a small head on them and can even be polished. 1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: ProSport] #587414 01/19/10 05:23 PM 01/19/10 05:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,152 Fancy Farm Ky W wyoming top fuel
wyoming top fuel W Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,152 Fancy Farm Ky	I run the screws, but if you have some wheels you don't want screws in and want to be perfectly kosher, run the Radial slicks, don't need any screws in those.

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: wyoming] #587415 01/19/10 05:29 PM 01/19/10 05:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	rim screws must also be indexed(straight across from each other) or it may steer the car like Mr P said.

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: 1976 Aspen] #587416 01/19/10 10:56 PM 01/19/10 10:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 63 central Ohio S SnakeEisz67 member
SnakeEisz67 member S Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 63 central Ohio	Quote: I just bought a set of CWI wheels and they are so pretty that I don't wanna clutter them up with rim screws on the outside. Is it OK to just put like eight screws on the inside instead??? It's a 3450 lb. bracket/street car that runs 10.20's with a 1.40 60' leaving off a trans brake. I'm running a M/T 29.5-11.5-15 ET Drag on a 10" rim with tubes. Any info/suggestions are appreciated!!! I ran screws on just 1 side of some 8.5" Convo-Pros before without any issues. This was on 3300 lbs. A body with 28x10 & 29.10" slicks. Car ran mid 10's at time. I was footbraking at time though. Finally went ahead and added screws on outside of rim after hearing & reading of others having problems with just one side "screwed".

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: 1976 Aspen] #587417 01/19/10 11:18 PM 01/19/10 11:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill D dennismopar73 top fuel
dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	dont run, never have, never will , dont need them unles youre a top fuel , pro stock car or something like that no need do what ever tho

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: dennismopar73] #587418 01/20/10 12:50 AM 01/20/10 12:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	I've read that some rims come with bead locks on only one side due to back spacing interfearance,, do you screw the other? it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: dennismopar73] #587419 01/20/10 01:05 AM 01/20/10 01:05 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Quote: dont run, never have, never will , dont need them unles youre a top fuel , pro stock car or something like that no need do what ever tho I'm going to strongly dissagree with this. Perhaps YOU have never needed them, but most guys that run bias-ply slicks with tubes on a car thats 60's under 1.5 are likely dealing with beads moving on the rims. Last year we watched my buddies nova slide the slicks 6" in just 4 runs (10.90's, 60-ing at about 1.5 & out the back door at 125ish) This can be a major safety issue as the tube which is pressurized to the tire will want to move with the tire. The valve-stem in this scenario will be the weak link. You want to blow a tube at 130 mph?? Have at it.... Me?, I'm taking the safe & simple option of adding a couple of screws to the rims. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: StealthWedge67] #587420 01/20/10 01:54 AM 01/20/10 01:54 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada dave571 master
dave571 master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada	I've marked slicks on 13 second cars and seen them move. That said, I ran without for many years without a problem. After seeing them move, I like knowing that mine aren't going to anymore

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: 1976 Aspen] #587421 01/20/10 02:37 AM 01/20/10 02:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,152 SO. CAL. 7 70blackfish master
70blackfish master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,152 SO. CAL.	you say your new rims are pretty..how are they gonna look if you pull you valve stem out and you hit the wall or hit the guy in the lane next 2 you. get the screws.

Re: Rim screws on the inside only??? [Re: StealthWedge67] #587422 01/20/10 03:34 AM 01/20/10 03:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada M mr. 63plymouth enthusiast
mr. 63plymouth enthusiast M Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada	I agree you dont need them,I run mid 9z on a 10" tire,with sixty fts in the thirties no problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5747460-HPIM34773.jpg (66 downloads)

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