Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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I'm thinking of changing the gears in my '67 Charger(a stock 383 hp re-build). Right now I have a 3.23 open rear with 28 inch tall tires and you can guess how sluggish it is. I'd like to have a bit more umph and not have to cruise around town at idle. So I'm thinking a 3.73 posi.
Question is -will I notice any big difference?
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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yes, will noticeable.
you'll have aprox 15% more RPMs at same speed, and also some torque increasing
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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well I'm saying will be noticeable, not BIIIIIG noticeable.
I jumped from 3.23 to 3.55 and I noticed.
500 RPMs increase is on certain speed not all the speed ratio... is 15% diff
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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it's more that I'd like to get it from idle to a usable rpm a little quicker.
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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I swapped from 3.23 to 3.91's i gained 2 tenths in the quarter and an extraa 500 rpm crusing, two tenths aern't worth it to me, i'm going back. do what the other people said and get a mild stall converter. Also i'd disconnect the vacuum advance and run 36 degrees total timing, if it were me. But everyones car is different.
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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well I'm saying will be noticeable, not BIIIIIG noticeable.
I jumped from 3.23 to 3.55 and I noticed.
500 RPMs increase is on certain speed not all the speed ratio... is 15% diff
My butt dyno also noticed the difference 'tween 3.23 and 3.55. Going from 3.23 to 3.73 would definately make a noticable difference, but you're also more likely to notice deficiencies in the top end (assuming they are there) more cause you'll rev faster and spend more time there.
I even felt the difference going from 2.76 to 2.94 in a Volare.
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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Swap to a 26" tire and see if you like it. If it's a stock build you may be working away from the torque band. Swapping on a set of tires is a quicker and cheaper solution to test it out.
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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I actually checked the numbers and I have a 2.94 rear end-so the jump to even 3.55's would be a welcome!
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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I made two swaps, 3:55's to 3:91's and also from a stock torque converter to a Turbo Action #17805ST (3500) and the larger gain of the two swaps was the conveter. I started with 3:91's than went to the 3:55's and then went back to the 3:91's with a 27" rear tire. I don't mind the 3300rpms at 65mph and the off the line grunt was better with the 3:91's. I would suggest trying the converter swap first. If you go this route, I would suggest jumping up into the 32-3500rpm range.
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Re: Big difference going from 3.23's to 3.73's?
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Not really no. I went from 3.23's to 3.91's and it certainly gets off the line better, but it wasn't a huge difference. The biggest thing I noticed was the extra 500rpm on the highway.
don't know why you didn't notice. Yes 3.23 to 3.73 will be a big improvement. I had a 69 383 charger w. 3.23's went thru the traps in 2nd (14.20) when I swapped in the 3.91's I got to use all 3 gears and dropped to 13.68.
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