The 1970 door has a round hole here. It is not a slotted oval for adjustment like later doors have.

Tav

This non-1970 door has an oval hole to allow the guide some in/out adjustment.

There are also some extra holes. Any idea what they're for?

You can see in this picture where the round cat whiskar holes were at before I made them oval like the 1970 door.

Tav

The 1970 door has an access hole here by the window crank. If I remember correctly, it adjusts something on the manual window regulator. This hole isn't in the later doors. I guess they decided it wasn't necessary.

Tav

This non-1970 door doesn't have the access hole you saw in the last picture.

It does have an extra hole that is not on the 1970 door though. I'm not sure what this hole is for. It is not used for either the manual or power window regulators. Any ideas?

Tav

Here's the 1970 door again, showing the oval cat whiskar holes.

Tav

Here is the same area on the non-1970 door. Compare it to the picture above.

Again, you can see where I made the round cat whiskar holes oval shaped to accept the clips on my 1970 cat whiskar set. My cat whiskar set is reproduction, and doesn't have a clip in one of the factory locations, so I didn't bother to make the unused hole oval shaped.

There is an oval hole for an extra window guide that was added after 1970.

There are also some other extra holes, and part of the door is actually stamped a different shape.

Tav

Looking down inside the 1970 door.

Tav

Looking down inside the non-1970 door, you can see the double thick sheetmetal.

Tav

Well, that's about all I've got so far. Hope that helps.

Tav

Cool detailed posts Tav!

My only comment would be the 'top of door trim' (belt moulding).

For a 'Cuda - '70 used a series of plastic clips to hold it (with one metal on the end), whereas later years had the little studs welded to the top of the door.

For Challengers, which used stainless steel for their moulding, IIRC all of the clips were metal of one description or another and would've been drilled into the door. I'll see if I have any SE moulding at the house that I can check.


If the post is still going in a few months, I'll take some photos of my door collection which includes '70s, '71s and later years....

Thanks for correcting me YYZ, I've edited my post above.

I have 1 set of the 'cuda belt moldings & clips off a 1970 'cuda, and 2 sets of the Challenger belt moldings off of unknown Challengers.

I totally agree with what you said about the 'cuda moldings.

Yes, the Challenger moldings are stainless instead of aluminum. (I just checked.) Unfortunately I don't have much in the way of clips for the Challenger pieces. I have one metal clip for each side of the car. (I got the set with 2 clips from Ken Mosier at The Finer Details.) I'm not sure what clips would be used on Challengers. Info appreciated

P.S. Just to make sure no one is confused, The molding on the top of the doors is called belt molding, and on Challengers it is commonly referred to as SE molding. The reason is that this molding came standard on the SE cars. However, it Was Also available as an option on other Challengers in 70 & 71.

Thanks
Tav

I saw in another thread that the 70-71 doors have dimples where the screws go for the convertible door wedges, and that the 72-74 doors don't have these dimples.

Just thought I should add that info to this thread.

Tav

Hi peeps,

found this very interesting topic and like to add some questions.

Looking down inside the above 70 door, does not show the attached bracket on the drivers side, that I have in my car. As I remembered I saw this bracket already.

I cannot see what the bracket is for in my car. Any ideas?

Many thanks.
Thomas

Here the pic that I downloaded for comparison. But I think it is shown on the wrong place.

Thomas

And here too, advertised as "NOS mirror attachment kit for driver's side remote mirrors".

Thomas

Tav,

The 2 extra holes below where the cat whiskers go are for a small metal bracket that has a hair-like appearance (anti-rattle clip). There are 2 small Phillips screws that retain the the bracket.

Chuck

Anyone have a picture of those anti rattle clips installed on a '70 door? Also did '70 come with 2 anti rattle clips and 2 window stop bumps at the top of the doors for the glass?