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I better look for that post and bash Eagle cranks...

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who's bashing? all I have seen is BG posting what he finds

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by the way people are bashing eagle cranks on another post, don't see anybody whinning about that

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How many hands did those cranks go through after they were purchased? How many of them were USED cranks?

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I am going to that other post and bash Eagle cranks. Too much BS and no more data in this topic.

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I am with you BG get on the ball you can't take a day off after starting this thread

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I don't get what some people are thinking.....its simple really.

If you're going to take a product, analyze it, find out what it needs or doesn't need, you dont start with a 2nd hand, re-machined, assembled/disassembled product. You take said product as it would be delivered from the vendor. New and unused.

It defeats the whole purpose.

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what makes you think the results would be any different? feel free to buy a new kit and do so

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I don't get what some people are thinking.....its simple really.

If you're going to take a product, analyze it, find out what it needs or doesn't need, you dont start with a 2nd hand, re-machined, assembled/disassembled product. You take said product as it would be delivered from the vendor. New and unused.

It defeats the whole purpose.

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what makes you think the results would be any different? feel free to buy a new kit and do so

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I don't get what some people are thinking.....its simple really.

If you're going to take a product, analyze it, find out what it needs or doesn't need, you dont start with a 2nd hand, re-machined, assembled/disassembled product. You take said product as it would be delivered from the vendor. New and unused.

It defeats the whole purpose.

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... Everything was checked the corrections were polishing of the crank snout & the seal surface... I spent about $450.00 having extra things checked but at this point I know what I have... And the machine shop I used said they would reccomend 440 Source to Mopar guys in the future.. When I was dropping the parts off they were warning me to expect problems..

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Does everyone honestly think that getting a kit that someone else has already modified is a good representation of that company's kit? Even though this is a USED kit, it will forever be REMEMBERED as the "440 Source kit". Which it is not. It is a kit that was modified by a few people before being evaluated. That is not a valid test of a 440 Source kit.

A new, unused 440 Source kit is the ONLY way to determine if the parts included pass the clearance and finishing tests.



I would not consider this a valid test of a 440 Source kit and would not base my purchases/options on these results.

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I have been following this thread from the beginning. Maybe I missed something. My understanding was that this kit had been purchased and looked at by another person/builder. Who determined it was over his head. BG is that a correct understanding? If incorrect please feel free to point me in the right direction. Jim

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is it too late to get back to the great pics and tech info? i learned some stuff from these two threads and would love to see and read more. thanks bg racing for posting the data, and hopefully this thread can get back on track. it WAS a great read. peace, dave

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We are taking a little break to let all the speculation,assumptions,opinions as well as attitudes run their course.Once things settle down we may continue.Things were getting a little tense and even I found myself getting cought up in the moments.The guy that bought the kit thought he was buying a upgraded kit that was ready to install,hense the ARP 2000 bolts,H-beam rods and the balance.He was a hobbist and wanted to do his own work.As far as other hands,Chaz helped him get the mains cut and fitted,he had some issues with the rod bearings and we suggested he have the rods checked,we were busy and he took the rods to a local reputable shop.He and a friend had issues getting the pins in and out of the pistons and issues try to check the clearences on the rod bearings as well as the timing gear fit on the crank.He was told that the rods were tight at the parting lines.He came back to us and asked us to look at the crank after his buddy pointed out the ugly flange and the unfinished hole.He was frustrated,we "asumed" it was just he thought he know more than he did and was over his head,an inexperienced novice engine builder.At first he asked us to help him finish the build,then decided to cut his losses and offered the entire engine to me for half what he had in it.We thought that it would be an informative thread for everyone on Moparts to get to join us in the venture of building this engine,from the Source kit to Indy top half,and into a BGR& Moparts racers car for performance evaluation.Something unique to Moparts.Presenting all the facts,good,bad or ugly,seems no one wants it that way.Some only want to here praise of good,others want to find ony the bad and ugly crap but many would like to know the facts and the truth of what to expect or look for or how to handle issues and learn.If we can all be open minded we could all gain from this and other projects together.A mind is like a parachute,it only works when it's open.Those who only want to here the good,those who only want to here the bad and those who want to bring their personal agendas for argument are few but hurt it for all those who want share this venture.Respectfully Bob George

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We are taking a little break to let all the speculation,assumptions,opinions as well as attitudes run their course.Once things settle down we may continue.Things were getting a little tense and even I found myself getting cought up in the moments.The guy that bought the kit thought he was buying a upgraded kit that was ready to install,hense the ARP 2000 bolts,H-beam rods and the balance.He was a hobbist and wanted to do his own work.As far as other hands,Chaz helped him get the mains cut and fitted,he had some issues with the rod bearings and we suggested he have the rods checked,we were busy and he took the rods to a local reputable shop.He and a friend had issues getting the pins in and out of the pistons and issues try to check the clearences on the rod bearings as well as the timing gear fit on the crank.He was told that the rods were tight at the parting lines.He came back to us and asked us to look at the crank after his buddy pointed out the ugly flange and the unfinished hole.He was frustrated,we "asumed" it was just he thought he know more than he did and was over his head,an inexperienced novice engine builder.At first he asked us to help him finish the build,then decided to cut his losses and offered the entire engine to me for half what he had in it.We thought that it would be an informative thread for everyone on Moparts to get to join us in the venture of building this engine,from the Source kit to Indy top half,and into a BGR& Moparts racers car for performance evaluation.Something unique to Moparts.Presenting all the facts,good,bad or ugly,seems no one wants it that way.Some only want to here praise of good,others want to find ony the bad and ugly crap but many would like to know the facts and the truth of what to expect or look for or how to handle issues and learn.If we can all be open minded we could all gain from this and other projects together.A mind is like a parachute,it only works when it's open.Those who only want to here the good,those who only want to here the bad and those who want to bring their personal agendas for argument are few but hurt it for all those who want share this venture.Respectfully Bob George

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True, if you are going to run this as a comparison test, it should be fair. Starting with a kit that has already been worked on by a 'mystery' guy (your description) doesn't seem fair.

Dave

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At the moment you would only have a issue with the
rods... correct and if thats the case they were in
acceptable range now, other than the rods everything
else was untouched(to my understanding)
Bob, is the block ready or does that still need to be
checked yet. I hope you continue with the project
for those that are willing to listen