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Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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I am looking for a trans setup to go behind my new motor just sold my 727 and Gear vendors. Because the gearing even with the low gear set just wasn't working out. To high of a first gear and still to low of a final gear ratio with the GV unit and 4.56. So i was looking at the T56 magnum or the road and track version not out yet and the auto . The auto would have a big gap in between 1st and 2nd but i will be running more Hp and Tq with the 426 so it might pull through it quicker. So question is if your running any of Keisler products how do you like it what would you change about it and how has the experience with Keisler been? If you got something to say and don't/cant post it send me a pm please. If you have input on a trans selection please post. Are there other dealers or is dealing directly with keisler the only way to get the product. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI2fGeL7DEE
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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12/25/09 10:51 AM
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James,....I've installed many of Keisler various transmission offerings within the last decade in my vehicles as well as customers vehicles, mostly Mopar, along with a few Ford and Chevy applications as well,....I generally prefere the TKO 600 5spd w/.64 OD,....if your looking at the auto set up keep in mind it's a .70 OD......the T56 will take the brunt of up to 600HP
As far as dealing with Keisler, sure I've heard of peoples fustrations in varing aspects, but from MY PERSONAL experiences I've never encountered any problems in poor product(s) or customer service,.....I've had a few orders that may have had a missing or incorrect kit part, but it was rectified with a phone call, Gene,Richard, and Jeff as well as Shafi have allways been more than courteous and professional over the years
As far as the products quality, I've trashed the crap out of every tranny supplied by Keisler, on the street as well as the track, and have yet to experience a transmission failure/breakage,.....I had experienced a hyd bearing failure, but that was on a 5yr old system, that had seen countless thrashings on the street and track, and was installed in a clutch set-up that Keisler hadn't recommended for use with that clutch/disc (plus it was at a power shift at around 6000+ RPM)
All I can recommend is if you decide a Keisler transmission is your choice, take their advice on the proper application, and regardless of your skill/experience level, if you can't perform various aspects of the installation, have someone that can,...the two most importantant aspects of the installation are bellhousing dial in, and driveline angle,.....if your not interested in POSSIBLE modifications to your vehicle (ex. crossmember,floor mods,etc) to make the transmission "fit" and function properly then stick with a stock set-up, but if your looking for a versatile transmission to meet your requirements, Keisler will have an application to your liking
Mike
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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12/25/09 12:13 PM
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hi keieler has no custmer service at all thats my 
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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12/25/09 01:45 PM
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That sounds VERY interesting. Can you share any details or hints at all about what's coming??
There was a thread on the subject here on Moparts not too long ago, I'll see if I can find it
Here you go (and I'm not talking about the McCloud unit, Passons is mentioned a few pages in)
Passon 5 speed
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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12/25/09 02:42 PM
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hi keieler has no customer service at all
thats my
That is the quote of the year
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
[Re: 05dakota]
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12/25/09 02:45 PM
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understatement of the year.
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hi keieler has no custmer service at all
thats my
Funny, that wasn't my experience at all, in my case it was roughly 2 and a half years between the initial purchase/shipment and the point in time when I could provide them a measurement for the custom made driveline. I found it necessary to contact them several times to sort out a few minor problems piecing the kit together or to just ask questions. Some of the clutch master cylinder bracing parts were missing from the initial shipment, missing speedo gear, and a fitting on the hydraulic line was incorrectly positioned. Support was very helpful each time, correct or missing parts were promptly sent out at their expense regardless of the time passed.
About 3k trouble free miles on my TKO-600 now, love it. I would buy from them again in a heartbeat.
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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12/25/09 04:56 PM
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I think some people (like Dayclona) get excellent service. If you're just a schmoo like me, working on your own car on jack stands in your one car garage-maybe not so much. {quote} ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry to dissapoint you, but the service(s) I've gotten from my first purchase many years ago, and from any current purchases, I get the same service as anyone else, which IMHO has allways been courteous, prompt, and satisfactory to resolve any questions or issuses, I get no freebies or special treatment.....then again some people are all "thumbs" when it comes to installations, if they can't install it with a hammer and duct tape, they become fustrated at their own inabilities,  (insert purple barracuda).....I've had no issuses with A,B,or E body installs, nor the Ford or Chevy application I've done, but I'm willing to alter the car for the application, that's what hotrod'n is all about And as far as you being a "schmoo (that's your own words) working on your own car on jackstands",... I don't have a pit crew working for me either bud! and yeah, I do things the hard way sometimes too....the pic below is the first time the TKO 600 was out in 5 yrs for a hyd. TO bearing, plus I upgraded to the Wilwood hyd master, 1 man job under 2 hrs Mike
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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Thanks for the responses its good to see comments without the sugar coating. No problems here cutting or building on my rig, just want to know their products will do what they say. Spent close to 5 grand with TCI before i knew better only to get what turned out to be a stock transmission 2 bad torque converters and no warranty and bad workmanship and shyit for service, But i did learn how to build a 727  Just don't want to go through the same thing with Keslier. Tci had me ready to drive up there and go postal. If their products are good i can look past the your money and your ride are not worthy of our products attitude (over the phone). I don't expect to get 50k miles out of anyone's products but 20-30k would be nice. It takes a lot of strength for a trans to stay together while moving 5380lbs down the track for a mid 12 . Then you add the stop light to stop light and top end runs i like. Nothing ever last to long . I just don't want to get another store bought trans in and have it fail in under 500 miles and then be told well the trucks heavy and our trans wasn't really made for that.  All advice is appreciated!!!! Sorry i am long winded
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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Seriously Dayclona. Please don't lie to us! I've seen the pictures in the magazines of the Excellent looking, and very capable helper that you have the good fortune to be wrenching with! That alone would inspire me to be able to do a 6 hour job in 2 hours also! lol. Just to prove my manability. Anyway, the Gear Vendors DOES advertise their stuff as maybe needing a little tunnel hammer tweaking, and I thought the Keisler was supposed to be a bolt in deal? I have no dog in this fight, as I bought a GV a while back, and have yet to install it on my automatic.
The Gear vendors unit had some problems in my application but the customer service and warranty was second to none. Good product with good people behind it. 
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Re: Keisler Transmissions , whos running their product???
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12/25/09 09:17 PM
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You may want to hold off shopping for a while, Jamie Passon is cooking up a bolt in 5 speed for Mopars, sounds pretty interesting from what I've heard so far.
i agree
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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: theclutcher]
#5597076 - Tue Nov 10 2009 12:02 PM
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Well,
I was not going to say anything just yet, BUT I feel that in light of the recent buzz about the McLeod trans, I guess it won’t hurt.
For a couple years now, we have been working on a NEW 5 Speed trans for Chrysler cars. We were not aware that McLeod was also doing it.
This is a clean sheet project. In other words, we are building this from the ground up. Due to our extensive experience with the cars that it must fit into, our individual designs that we will be offering will make installation easy. In fact, we feel that it will be something that the average guy can put in their car in just a few hours.
This unit will be a BOLT IN!!!!!!! No monkey business with driveline angles, notching torsion bar crossmembers, redrilling bellhouisngs, changing clutches. You will retain your ORIGINAL shifter handle in the ORIGINAL location. The unit will look like it came from the factory in the car. It will be a HURST style shifter arrangement with external linkage, just like the design of shifter that these great cars left the factory with.
There will be an A Body trans
There will be a B Body trans (‘63- ‘69)
There will be a'70 - UP B/E Body trans.
You will use your ORIGINAL driveshaft and yoke
You will use your ORIGINAL transmission crossmember and trans mount
You will use your ORIGINAL bellhousing
You will use your ORIGINAL flywheel,
You will use your ORIGINAL clutch and throwout bearing (18 spline only)
The unit WILL fit under the floor pan with no modifications.
Due to the simplicity here, it WILL be as easy as changing the trans. Truly an afternoon job.
As for cost… I can tell you this, it will not be $2300.00, HOWEVER, I feel that the price will be fair considering that the unit is MADE for the car. Versus taking an existing trans and trying to shoehorn it in and not cut the car as other manufacturers have tried in the past.
To accomplish the project, we have drawn on the years of gear cutting experience from our partner GFI. This is the organization that we have been working with our very successful Hemi OD project. They have a brand new CNC gear cutting facility that WE will be manufacturing the units.in.
And now for the BEST part…….
IT IS MANUFACTURED IN THE USA!
There will be more to come….
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Passon Performance
309 Turkey Path
Sugarloaf, PA 18249
(570) 401 8949
www.passonperformance.com
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I tried to talk to a Keisler rep about it at the Nats last year and was gently escorted from their spot. 
