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Re: Got it torn down
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12/16/09 06:36 PM
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on the sleeve-ing deal..
no doubt its a better cyl to make the rings seal.
i understand on certain blocks webbing design..sleeving all 8 cyl can cause a weak spot in the main web.....main caps..fwiw..
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/16/09 11:55 PM
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I talked with Scott tonight and got some clarification. It's not that the block has sleeves, it's more about the quality of them and how they were installed.
I also took a minute and went out and did a rough mic of the bores on the other 440 block that I have. It's at 4.319 give or take. I still want to get it in the air to take a look to see if it might have a forged crank.
Gonna have to clean the garage befor I can lift it though 
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 02:46 AM
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I talked with Scott tonight and got some clarification. It's not that the block has sleeves, it's more about the quality of them and how they were installed.
I also took a minute and went out and did a rough mic of the bores on the other 440 block that I have. It's at 4.319 give or take. I still want to get it in the air to take a look to see if it might have a forged crank.
Gonna have to clean the garage befor I can lift it though
Does it still have the balancer on it? If it does, it should be a thin balancer if it's forged. No counterweights on it. If not, look at the back of the crank. Is there a bore for a pilot bushing? Cast 440 cranks don't have one. At least none of the ones I've looked at have had one. Which really sucks cause my truck is a 4 spd. Now I've got to tear down my '71 440 just so I can get the crankshaft out of it.
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 09:07 AM
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No balancer on it at all. 
Basically all that is there is the block, crank, and rods and pistons.
Scott showed how to tell the difference between them so I'll take a look tonight. 
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 10:28 AM
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I couldn't agree more
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 07:12 PM
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I got a chance to look further into that other 440 block this evening.
Looks like a forged crank to me 
It's a 72 block that appears to be a standard bore as well. I can't tell for sure but it doesn't look like it has any sleeves in it.
I sprayed a little penatrating oil in the bores and it rolled over quite nicley.
I'm thinking it's well worth the $100 I gave for it. 
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 07:27 PM
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I'm thinking it's well worth the $100 I gave for it.
I'll say!
the 440 block I have I paid $100 for, and it's just a bare block, .040 over, with a ring gouge in 1 cylinder.
not that I'm complaining, I still think $100 for that block is a fair price--if the ring gouge doesnt' come out with a hone job, then I always have the option of a sleeve, or take all 8 to .060
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 07:45 PM
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it is a forged crank,
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AND, it has the ly rods and cast pistons you like!
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 08:21 PM
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Maybe some aluminum paint to lighten it up? 
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 08:42 PM
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You guys can do what ever you want but it WILL be blue before it goes in the car
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 09:00 PM
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You guys can do what ever you want but it WILL be blue before it goes in the car
Bill have you heard the word... contrast.... LOL
talk to any interior decorator...... so I've been told
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Re: Got it torn down
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12/17/09 09:01 PM
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Bill have you heard the word... contrast.... LOL
I have different shades of blue on the car
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