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Mike you mean the tag weight can't be change from factory specs ?

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Fred, I'm assuming when you mean TAG weight that you
are referring to the plate on the truck.... we dont
have a weight on our plates in Mich UNLESS its commercial,
a private pick up uses a regular plate here.... our
trailers have a permanent plate that just says trailer
with the plate number..... again no weight

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Mike you mean the tag weight can't be change from factory specs ?

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Fred, I'm assuming when you mean TAG weight that you
are referring to the plate on the truck.... we dont
have a weight on our plates in Mich UNLESS its commercial,
a private pick up uses a regular plate here.... our
trailers have a permanent plate that just says trailer
with the plate number..... again no weight

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Don't let your self be lured into a false sence of security because you stay in your own back yard.



Bob I usually travel to Ohio, Indiana, Mich and Canada
to race and never been bothered by them so you can
see I dont stay in my "back yard"..... I understand
what you are saying about revenues

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For those of us in FL, I spoke to Lt Morris at the Tallahasee DOT field office today, as well as Debra at the DOT CDL help desk. I now have both their numbers in my ongoing and growing glove box file, lol.

Both of them agreed that as long as this is a hobby, there is no CDL or DOT number needed, and there is no need to stop at a weight station. You are required to stop at the ag station leaving or entering the state. Their definition of it being a hobby is that I do this occasionally for fun and it is not run as a business with deductions for expense. They were both aware of the possibility of prize money.

Debra is actually a racer and laughed at the possibility of me showing a profit like a business would and should.

They both flat out said that my vehicle is an RV, and not subject to DOT CMV compliance.

The conversation was based off of my truck and trailer, a 2005 Dodge dually and a 48' Pace with living quarters. My GVW is 12,200tk and 18,500tr for a CGVW of 30,700. My trailer is not lettered and it is tagged as a trailer, not an RV. Both trailer and truck are registered to me and not a business.

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I mentioned awhile back about Fla not following the letter of the law (meaning Fed DOT) and expected to get slammed and did. I think if you read what the Fla DOT guy said, and what the FED DOt guy said, someone is not following the letter of the law, And none of them know it well anyway, nor sounds like they care (for instance, I can't believe the FED Dot Guy isn't aware of the uproar on this topic), and the states are constantly moving towards a federal understanding of the rules, so the often quoted state exemptions are nice and currently on the books and real, but I would guess they will constantly change the defintions (rather then the laws, ie what exactly is an RV anyway?, and I mentioned a couple of years back I would install a frig, a mattress, a chemical toilet and a bucket of soap and water in the back of a straight truck, call it an RV,and a fellow moparts leo said he would cite me and haul me off ) until they get whatever it is they want or make a nationwide standard ( since nothing jives, and I saw a $387,000 very nice "RV" at the recent PRI show that had a low mount 5th wheel for a monstrous trailer, asked the salesman, what that did to the RV vs CMV requirements, he gave me the typical "dog look" )which will only be stricter, not looser.

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EOBRs and REAL TIME TRACKING OF TRUCKERS

SENATOR BILL NELSON, one of your lawmakers in the U.S. Senate, serves on the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation committee. On Thursday morning (12/17) the Commerce committee will be voting on S.554, the “Motor Coach Enhanced Safety Act.”

Senator Frank Lautenberg (NJ) plans to offer an amendment to S.554 that will require all trucks to have Electronic Onboard Recorders (EOBRs) installed and will require “real time tracking” of drivers and vehicles.

While we believe Senator Lautenberg has noble intentions, the amendment will not bring the safety benefits that he envisions and will actually create numerous problems. His amendment will be costly, especially for small business, and it brings up numerous privacy concerns for America’s truckers.

Please call and/or fax Senator Nelson TODAY and tell him to “vote ‘No’ on the Lautenberg amendment to S.554.”

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Ole Frank belongs on the hit list

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2010 - DO NOT FORGET


Your U.S. House & Senate have voted themselves $4,700 and $5,300 raises.
1. They voted to not give you a S.S. cost of living raise in 2010 and 2011.
2. Your Medicare premiums will go up $285.60 for the 2-years and
you will not get the 3% COLA: $660/yr. Your total 2-yr loss and cost is
-$1,600 or -$3,200 for husband and wife.
3. Over 2-yrs they each get $10,000
4. Do you feel SCREWED?
5. Will they have your cost of drugs - doctor fees - local taxes - food, etc., increase?
NO WAY . They have a raise and better benefits. Why care about you? You never did anything about it in the past. You obviously are too stupid or don't care.
6. Do you really think that Nancy, Harry, Chris, Charlie, Barnie, et al, care about you? SEND THE MESSAGE-- You're FIRED.
IN 2010 YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GET RID OF THE SITTING CONGRESS:
Up to 1/3 OF THE SENATE, AND 100% OF THE HOUSE.
MAKE SURE YOU'RE STILL MAD IN NOVEMBER 2010 AND REMIND THEIR REPLACEMENTS NOT TO SCREW UP.
It is ok to forward this to your sphere of influence if you are finally tired of the abuse

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If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,
cut away @ the fat

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2010 - DO NOT FORGET


Your U.S. House & Senate have voted themselves $4,700 and $5,300 raises.
1. They voted to not give you a S.S. cost of living raise in 2010 and 2011.
2. Your Medicare premiums will go up $285.60 for the 2-years and
you will not get the 3% COLA: $660/yr. Your total 2-yr loss and cost is
-$1,600 or -$3,200 for husband and wife.
3. Over 2-yrs they each get $10,000
4. Do you feel SCREWED?
5. Will they have your cost of drugs - doctor fees - local taxes - food, etc., increase?
NO WAY . They have a raise and better benefits. Why care about you? You never did anything about it in the past. You obviously are too stupid or don't care.
6. Do you really think that Nancy, Harry, Chris, Charlie, Barnie, et al, care about you? SEND THE MESSAGE-- You're FIRED.
IN 2010 YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GET RID OF THE SITTING CONGRESS:
Up to 1/3 OF THE SENATE, AND 100% OF THE HOUSE.
MAKE SURE YOU'RE STILL MAD IN NOVEMBER 2010 AND REMIND THEIR REPLACEMENTS NOT TO SCREW UP.
It is ok to forward this to your sphere of influence if you are finally tired of the abuse

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everyone has a right to complain. its called freedom of speech

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In Florida, as long as it's a private truck and not a cab/chassis, that is correct. There is not a weight pull limit on a pickup truck license plate, only a GVW.

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In Florida, as long as it's a private truck and not a cab/chassis, that is correct. There is not a weight pull limit on a pickup truck license plate, only a GVW.

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That's interesting. I live in Kissimmee and they told me I have to register the truck and the trailer combined weight together on my truck tag. So my truck is registered as a combined GVW of 19,999. That is for my truck a 2005 Ram 3500 DRW and a 24' enclosed trailer. If you could tell me where to find the info you have showing other wise it would sure lower my registration fees a lot!

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In Florida, as long as it's a private truck and not a cab/chassis, that is correct. There is not a weight pull limit on a pickup truck license plate, only a GVW.

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That's interesting. I live in Kissimmee and they told me I have to register the truck and the trailer combined weight together on my truck tag. So my truck is registered as a combined GVW of 19,999. That is for my truck a 2005 Ram 3500 DRW and a 24' enclosed trailer. If you could tell me where to find the info you have showing other wise it would sure lower my registration fees a lot!

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Same thing here in Daytona. I was told to tag for combined weight of truck and trailer. Trailer tag is based on registered manufactured weight. So I also got one for 19,999. It's "private", but it falls into the truck category that has its registration renewal in December instead of your birthday.

For reference: 2004.4 diesel dually, 60 gal. aux tank (full), topper w/load of tires, parts & tools, 26' Pace trailer w/dual 6,000 axles, cabinets, 3,360 lb race car, spare trans, rear & fuel. Came in at between 19 & 20 with the weight split pretty close when I weighed at a truck stop a few years ago.

I just realized....Is that double-taxation? Trailer is tagged for manufactured weight, then truck is tagged for overall total weight INCLUDING the trailer!