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TIG Welding Aluminum #545569
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Knowing it has to be clean to weld properly, what works best
to clean a used intake manifold for welding?

Somebody ground through the roof of this port while "port matching" it.

It's too thin to glass bead and I don't want to use epoxy.

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Re: TIG Welding Aluminum [Re: S/ST 3040] #545570
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A stainless steel wire brush is fine as long as it is clean...maybe some alcohol to remove oils. A little trick is to put a piece of copper behind the hole when welding. The filler won't stick to it.


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Re: TIG Welding Aluminum [Re: S/ST 3040] #545571
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I will run my tig across it and pull the crap to the top. Then I use a stainless wire wheel and go over it with that. I'll use the tig again and see if its still pulling junk. If not then I'll just fill the hole or crack.

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Vic, bead-blast it lightly first both inside and out. An aluminum mig will do just fine too.

Raised ports eh?

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A stainless steel wire brush is fine as long as it is clean...maybe some alcohol to remove oils. A little trick is to put a piece of copper behind the hole when welding. The filler won't stick to it.




... has to be a stainless brush.... dont
sand blast it

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Slightly diluted "simple Green" ( it's slightly caustic) seems to draw out oils, soak for a few minutes, your biggest problem, followed by acetone or MEK, then alum only SS brush.


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Raised ports eh?




It was like that when I got it. Just a hack job. My sister
could have done a better job. They had just patched over
it with some flakey epoxy. There are several things that
need fixed on this un-cut intake.

Thanks for all the responses. Looks like cleaning it will be
cheap enough.

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put a penny behind it when you weld,,
it wont drip through or push out..a bigger hole.
and wont stick to the copper
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don't ever glass bead aluminum if you plan to tig weld it. the glass can impregnate the aluminum and cause issues of porosity in the weld. MEK and then heat (after it evaporates) works well.

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OK, somebody is going to have to tell me what MEK is.

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OK, somebody is going to have to tell me what MEK is.




Methyl ethyl chloride(dont know on the spelling)

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OK, somebody is going to have to tell me what MEK is.


Methel Ethel Keytone, you may have ahard time finding it now. Try a good paint or harware store that sells commercial paint products


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OK, somebody is going to have to tell me what MEK is.




Methyl ehthel ketone.(MEK)Home Depot

I agree with Dram (clean and then heated)and the other posters about the copper.I've just used a piece of copper plumbing tube.


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I have used a few things, but a new or clean stainless wire brush is the ticket. I also purchased some aluminum cleaner from the local welding shop expensive but it works great. It eats off the oxidation. But Easy off in the yellow can works just as good, and it is much cheaper. Make sure you buy the one that doesn't need you to preheat the oven. Oh and the stainless wire brush is a must. Aluminum will start oxidizing within a couple of hours. I always clean it off really well, then clean it again just before I do the welding.

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acetone and a brand new stainless wire brush. make sure you wear rubber gloves while applying the acetone. Some of that stuff will KILL you.


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after your normal degreasing I have always found that soaking in the laundry tube with powdered tide and super hot water will bring all the oils out of the pores. let it soak for an hour and you will see the oil slick on the surface of the water. Rinse after and then do another soak in just plain hot water. Rinse, heat, SS wire brush, then weld.

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what ever you do, DO NOT use brakleen anywhere within about ten miles of where you are going to weld that.

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OK, somebody is going to have to tell me what MEK is.


Methel Ethel Keytone, you may have ahard time finding it now. Try a good paint or harware store that sells commercial paint products




Thats the stuff.... couldnt remember the last word

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what ever you do, DO NOT use brakleen anywhere within about ten miles of where you are going to weld that.




Thanks, but you're a week late with that advice. Anyhow, tell me why. I'm guessing I was fortunate that nothing happened as a result.

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I've just used a piece of copper plumbing tube.




I make up what we call a welders helper... a piece
of brass brazed to a rod with a file handle on the
end... the brass part is sorta pie shaped but I have
a few different shaped ones

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