Tens with a 365ci
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I want ot run tens with a 360.Here is what I have.365ci,(kb107's)ported eddys,180psi cyl pressure (10.5-11to1)1-5/8to1-3/4 step headers,750/holley-proform carb(DP).The car is 3130#w/driver.Trans is a 904wlow 1st gear.The car has 410 gear and 28"x10 slicks.I have SSleafs in it right now but am thinking of going to Cal-Trac set up.I want to use as much as I can and I am on a budget(like everybody)so I would like to do this with a flat tappet cam as the car will see some street duty.Ideas?
410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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I want ot run tens with a 360.Here is what I have.365ci,(kb107's)ported eddys,180psi cyl pressure (10.5-11to1)1-5/8to1-3/4 step headers,750/holley-proform carb(DP).The car is 3130#w/driver.Trans is a 904wlow 1st gear.The car has 410 gear and 28"x10 slicks.I have SSleafs in it right now but am thinking of going to Cal-Trac set up.I want to use as much as I can and I am on a budget(like everybody)so I would like to do this with a flat tappet cam as the car will see some street duty.Ideas?
Depending on how good the heads are, you'll get close. Might need a roller cam and some more gear though...
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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I ran these heads on a 408 a few years back and it ran 10.90's at 124mph so I think they flow enough to get the job done.
410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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My Combo is R3 Block 4.04 bore 3.600 crank= 369 CI Indy 360-1 heads crane solid roller .630 lift deamon 1000 carb 727 4.88 gear 70 dart@3200 lbs 29x12.0 tires went 10.46 @128 mph in hot weather mostly run 1/8 mile was turning 7500 through the lights 1/4 mile shift at 7000 not a low buck engine but still small in size
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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71 dart with 360 wiseco flat tops, h beam rods, ported eddies, hughes 260/264 with 1.6 rockers, edddy victor intake, holley 750, 904 trans, TA converter 5000 flash, 4.56 gears, 9 x 29.5 m/t slicks..
11.03 in las vegas, would run 10s at sea level.
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70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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360 magnum block, cast crank, manley rods, dish pistons, ported Magnum R/T heads, Magnum single plane intake, 360 thermoquad carb...(less than .600" valve lift, crosses @ 7600rpm) 10.38 @ 126+ @ 3185 lbs. & 10.70 @ 122 @ 3455 lbs. This is a NHRA legal SS 360. It won't set the world on fire but it's OK for what it is... A bracket 360 should easily be able to run 10's.
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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2500# 1970 duster stock crank,.040 over 360,521 lift racer brown solid cam,750 holley,set of eldebrock heads I ported,4:88 gear,shift at 6500 rpm,1.5 crane rockers,17/8 headmen headers,air gap intake.
10.36 @ 127 mph on pump gas.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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I am curious as to how mine is going to run. .040 360 with KB107s, zero deck, .039 quench. Out of the box eddies with a good valve job and K-motion K800(IIRC) springs. Off the top of my head the Cam is solid roller 272@.050 and 680ish lift my laptop is down and the specs are on it. Edelbrock victor, 750 Holley, TA4500 8" 3.91 gears. I think the TTI headers and full exhaust won't do it any favors but I like the tailpipes.
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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Hard to predict without more info but if you are running a 680 lift roller with that combo you are way over cammed.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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I have 363ci (360 Crate short block 30 over)56cc W2 heads, 590 lift MP mechanical cam, MP steel crank, Scat rods, JE Sportsman pistons 11.2 to 1 comp,Victor W2 intake ,AED prepped 750, 904, Ultimate 4,700 stall 8 inch convertor,4.88s or 4.56s 3150lbs 68 Dart best ET 10.40 average 10.50-10.60s at 124-125mph. However the last two seasons its been mechanical stopped down to run 11.50s on DOT tires.
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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I am curious as to how mine is going to run. .040 360 with KB107s, zero deck, .039 quench. Out of the box eddies with a good valve job and K-motion K800(IIRC) springs. Off the top of my head the Cam is solid roller [Email]272@.050[/Email] and 680ish lift my laptop is down and the specs are on it. Edelbrock victor, 750 Holley, TA4500 8" 3.91 gears. I think the TTI headers and full exhaust won't do it any favors but I like the tailpipes.
Any input on this?
What is your goal for this car/engine?
272º @ .050" cam has no business in a street bound 360. OOTB heads will need more than a valve job for any serious perfomance expectations.
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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This is a street car but not a cruiser at all. It will get driven to work on occasion and to the track. Manners aren't a real concern.
This cam worked excellent for my dad in a stock port X head 340 combo. I was originally going to build a high compresion 340. I got this 360 shortblock for a deal and am using it to get back on the road so I can start on a stroked 340.
What would be a better choice? Looking to run as fast as possible not concerned about street manners. I am not dead set on this cam but I will try it out since I already have it.
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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How did that 340 run with that cam? I think you're at least 20º too big. I figure, with the deck, head and piston you mentioned, you're about 10.38:1 4500 converter and 3.91 gears and exhaust with that cam won't be concerned about street manners either. You asked for input and I was just giving you mine.
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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id get teh flow chart on the eddies and do a cam based on those numbers.. cam is whats gonna make or break what you got.
who asked about 360" at 7200? hell mine shifts all day at 7200 its been 7800 a few time according to the mem tach.. cheapst
365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured [image][/image]
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Re: Tens with a 365ci
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I did ask for opinions. Not real surprised at the answers either. If its a turd I will know why but at least I won't have to push it anymore That 340 my dad had with this cam ran 10.80s in a 3200lb car.
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