Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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Chrysler/Amer. Mtrs. “727”, “904”, “998” & “999” Transmissions All water burnouts should be started in second gear and shift to third if necessary. If you should start burnout in first, shift immediately to second before tires come out of water. No matter whether it be second or third gear you are in as you come out of the water, you should start to deaccelerate engine or do a power burnout directly to the staging line being sure tires never grab dry pavement.
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
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Lee,I have been told by many to start in 2nd and go into high.With the HP your producing,after goin' through the water box,2nd will spin em no problem.
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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Lee I would always start in 1st, 2,3, and never til this day had a problem
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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Lately I use a Glide nda Valiant, but my other cars have 727, I guess its debatable, Curtis, also starts out in 1st.
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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Lee I would always start in 1st, 2,3, and never til this day had a problem
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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The ONLY reason to use 1rst gear is if you have a big tire and low HP and are just unable to spin the tires using second or third.
And, then you need to shift to second as soon as practical.
I do my burnout in second and never shift. Just boot the throttle in second. Don't be timid!
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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Gotta Line-Loc?? Like Dave says....then you wouldn't need hardly any throttle to bust the tires loose in 2nd gear. I've been staying in 2nd gear alot more lately thru the whole burnout. With the 6Pak, if I shift into high gear at the wrong time, the engine will try to start bogging down, so I give it some more throttle and the tac heads for the moon when the end carbs slam open. Thank God for Rev-Limiters!!
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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What gives on others opinions?
On all Mopar 904 types and 727 with manual valve bodys, back in the early 1970s at one of the Mopar performance drag race seminars, I was told to never do a water burn out starting in low gear and then shift it into 2nd or 3rd, never Shame on your trans builder I set the line loc, hit it in second and shift into high as soon as I know the tires are spinning in 2nd gear, I try to keep the rpms 200 to 300 above the stall of the converter or more. Once the tires are smoking in high gear I do a count, 1 to 4 depending on tires and track conditions, and then let go of the line loc and let the car drive out of the water at very light throttle, I let off as soon as I feel the tires start to grab. Ready to go to the starting line now and away
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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But what if you shift from 2 to 3:d gear with to little power. And you try it over and over again, will you burn the transmission.
I have a friend thats killing his tranny this way.
Or is he hurting it?? The oil smells burnt.
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
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racing 32 years 2nd to high set line lock crack the throttle to 6000 shift to 3rd . However i do drive mine out hard like pro stocks up to the line in 3rd .That was with 904s and 727s. don
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: 10 o to go]
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most drum explosions happen during the burnout. if you are using a stock drum, it is a must to start in 2nd gear. if that stock drum lets go in 1st gear or in the burnout box, your going to have a serious mess and maybe 1 less leg or foot.that drum with come right through the floorboard.
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