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Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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Has anyone on here used them?Opinions?
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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Im using their lifters also, no problems here either after 2 seasons and they drop right in as stated above.
Is this a solid or hydraulic roller lifter.I take it that there is no block grinding.What about oil mods to the stock block 340. 
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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Im using their lifters also, no problems here either after 2 seasons and they drop right in as stated above.
Is this a solid or hydraulic roller lifter.I take it that there is no block grinding.What about oil mods to the stock block 340.
I'm talking about the solid rollers, no grinding on OE 340 block, OE lifter bores.
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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do you have to run a herbert cam with them.?
ie..smaller base circle?
or any brand roller cam?
also...
what cam did you go with ..and did it make power?
heck while iam at it
what heads did you use and what valve springs are you running?
cheaspt
365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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do you have to run a herbert cam with them.?
ie..smaller base circle?
or any brand roller cam?
also...
what cam did you go with ..and did it make power?
heck while iam at it
what heads did you use and what valve springs are you running?
cheaspt
Ya im thinking of going roller.Is the herbert roller cam any good. 
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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I am thinking of going with the solid roller also.The smallest one on the list he has online is a 585/604 246/253@.050 has anyone heard anything about these?
410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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For what it's worth, I've used his roller lifters for years, and for my money they are as good as anything out there.
His stuff tends to be pretty decent (remember, Chet Herbert is one of the oldest, most successful cam grinders ever), so I wouldn't be afraid to use it.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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do you have to run a herbert cam with them.?
ie..smaller base circle?
or any brand roller cam?
also...
what cam did you go with ..and did it make power?
heck while iam at it
what heads did you use and what valve springs are you running?
cheaspt
I used the Comp .394" CR lobes, sorry, didn't measure the base circle, just made sure the oil band in the lifter was not exposed, mild ported "J" heads, Herbert 1.500" IIRC double springs, factory 340 intake ported/plenum divider removed, JE flat tops.
Ran 10.71 @ 125 in a 3200 lb. Duster @ 3800 ft.DA last week at Fontana, Ca.
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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10/30/09 08:54 AM
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I used the Comp .394" CR lobes, sorry, didn't measure the base circle, just made sure the oil band in the lifter was not exposed, mild ported "J" heads, Herbert 1.500" IIRC double springs, factory 340 intake ported/plenum divider removed, JE flat tops.
Ran 10.71 @ 125 in a 3200 lb. Duster @ 3800 ft.DA last week at Fontana, Ca.
R5-P7 I tried sending you a PM but it was full.
I wanted to ask what the combination was and where you shift. That motor sounds real strong for a stock intake manifold.
1971 Factory Appearing Duster 340 11.000 @ 122 mph
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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10/30/09 11:54 AM
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ok..i got lots of questions for you guys who've used them
ive got a set of dougs rollers setting behind me on my shelf..had them for over a yr.
my question is..
can you give me some indepth data..on what springs you used. would you do anything different?
what was the installed heights how did you go about getting it? lots of work or fairly simple?
ive got ported j heads..with stock length valves
and 2.02 diam..
what did you use for keepers and locks?
how did you set up your heads for these cams?
i am looking for specifics as i want to put these in my motor..
as asked previously...what type of power band did you have/shift points..power graph if you had one..?
if i could figure this out..ill be installing it into my car,, pronto..
so i am all ears...cheapst
365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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my isssues are gonna be spring heights and keepers..dont know what kinda installed height i can get with whats in there now..
let me ask you about the performance...
ive looked at that cam. what stall converter did you use? how did it pull at 4500?
did it fall off any..(sound like it didnt since you mention'd shifting higher)
do you know how much cyl psi you had after installing the cam?
thanks cheapst
365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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10/30/09 12:36 PM
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my isssues are gonna be spring heights and keepers..dont know what kinda installed height i can get with whats in there now..
let me ask you about the performance...
ive looked at that cam. what stall converter did you use? how did it pull at 4500?
did it fall off any..(sound like it didnt since you mention'd shifting higher)
do you know how much cyl psi you had after installing the cam?
thanks cheapst
I never did check the cyl pressure. I was using JE flat top 340 pistons at .010 in the hole with a 65cc head. My convertor flashed at 5400. It was an 8" tubro action for a 904. It ran 10.89 at almost 123 was it's best in a 3200 Dart. And that was shifting at 6800. When I shifted at 7400 it was in the 1/8 mile. And I only did it a few times. Forgot to turn on my airshifter. If you could I would collapse down one of your springs and if you know anybody that has a spring height checker you can check your installed height right on the motor. This is how I did mine.
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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10/30/09 05:42 PM
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do you have to run a herbert cam with them.?
ie..smaller base circle?
or any brand roller cam?
also...
what cam did you go with ..and did it make power?
heck while iam at it
what heads did you use and what valve springs are you running?
cheaspt
I used the Comp .394" CR lobes, sorry, didn't measure the base circle, just made sure the oil band in the lifter was not exposed, mild ported "J" heads, Herbert 1.500" IIRC double springs, factory 340 intake ported/plenum divider removed, JE flat tops.
Ran 10.71 @ 125 in a 3200 lb. Duster @ 3800 ft.DA last week at Fontana, Ca.
Just wanted to know the comp. ratio?I would like to try to run 10.90's with a 360,eddys,herbert cam&lifter set with 10.5/pump gas motor @3130#
410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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10/30/09 10:31 PM
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the biggist issue i see with herberts cams are the lack of choices...lol..
but i digess..
its got a fair bit of duration..it might bleed off too much compression..
depending on what your starting with mechanically for compression..
however...it seems there are those out there running someone elses camshaft with them.
my issue/concern is if you dont use a herbert cam...you want to make sure the cam lobe base circle doesent push or seat the lifter up so high that it exposes the oil passage..and you loose oil pressure. when it comes to ordering a non herbert cam.
so knowing the dimensions..the cams base circle needs to be at..might prevent a mistake..
i am very anxious to employee them..i just need to get the best data..
id hate to tear down a perfeclty good running race car..only to have to spend a ton on machine work....work and $$ i dont have time for right now...
but if its a plug and play...then i am in sooner than i would hope to be...
any one with experience can chime in ..
cheapst
365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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10/31/09 10:02 AM
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I used the Comp .394" CR lobes, sorry, didn't measure the base circle, just made sure the oil band in the lifter was not exposed, mild ported "J" heads, Herbert 1.500" IIRC double springs, factory 340 intake ported/plenum divider removed, JE flat tops.
Ran 10.71 @ 125 in a 3200 lb. Duster @ 3800 ft.DA last week at Fontana, Ca.
R5-P7 I tried sending you a PM but it was full.
I wanted to ask what the combination was and where you shift. That motor sounds real strong for a stock intake manifold.
Sorry, PM's cleared now.
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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10/31/09 11:11 AM
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Im using their lifters also, no problems here either after 2 seasons and they drop right in as stated above.
Is this a solid or hydraulic roller lifter.I take it that there is no block grinding.What about oil mods to the stock block 340.
Im running a solid roller cam and lifters. I did no oiling mods at all. Just changed cams and dropped in the lifters and a bronze dist. gear. My cam has a .640 lift with a 1.5 rocker.
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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I just got off the phone with the Doug herbert store and they will grind any of the small chevy grinds on the small mopar cores so that gives us alot more cams to pick from.
410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far
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Re: Doug Herbert SB roller cams&lifters
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I was thinking the 6k or the 6kr.???
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