Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
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I always had a hard time writing guys for streetracing---kinda hard to do when you've done it yourself. . The few I did write I always got a conviction and they got the maximum penalty (8pts/ $1000 fine) as it was an aggravated situation and the Prosecutor was smart enough to bring up my racing experience to substantiate I knew just WHAT a race was. One time 2 guys had the same Court date & one goes in to testify on behalf of the other. The first claimed his car couldn't even do the 100mph+ the report said. When presented with photos of the car the Judge didn't buy it & convicted him. The second guy goes to Court & pleads with the Prosecutor to let him go with the same penalty as the first guy,as he was looking at a license revocation. The Prosecutor asked me what I thought. Since he was doing the same thing, I thought it was only fair he got the same punishment. The Prosecutor & Judge bought into it, & like the first guy, it cost him 1k & 8pts--somehow the Judge ignored the potential revocation. The funny thing was both guys could've avoided the whole problem except when I had stopped the first guy & said "Nice street race!", figuring I'd give him a warning, he said " F#$k You! Prove it!"...I did....
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
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11/09/09 07:37 PM
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Ok.. first off... disclaimer.. It's not a Mopar!
Now, in 1980 my parents bought me a 1975 Monte Carlo, 350 auto. Nice ride.. me and a buddy Ray did some work on the engine, had a shift kit put in the turbo 350/Posi and had some fun. One night a local guy with a "NEW" 1982?? Mustang (Black on Black w/green stripes)Turbo 5 speed was laughing at some of us with bigger/older cars as he called them... needless to say one thing led to another and the challenge went out... I'd run my big/old Monte up againest his Mustang (temp tag still in the rear window and all!). He also stated... If I beat him he'd burn the car!!!!!!
Well, we lined up... for a 2 out of three on the Old Sydney Road.... I got him off the line and the first one was mine. Second one was a bit closer but I pulled away when he was around third gear..... no need for a rubber match!
We got together later that night (about 2AM) and sat out on his front step watching a flicker of light away in the distance (a huge open field)... the Mustang was no more.... it was turned into a big BBQ..LOL!!!! A few weeks later he was driving another Mustang.. again NEW.. white car w/a 302 Auto!!!
Bryan
P.S... here's a picture of me and my Monte Carlo back in the early 80's... I still have the car!
Don't be stupid.... it's not smart!
1970 Super Bee. Big blk 4 speed car. 1973 Dodge Dart Sport 340 4 speed car. 1985 Dodge Ram D-100 /6 auto. Original paint 1990 Dodge Ram D-150 V-6 5 Speed. Original paint 1995 Chrysler LHS V-6 auto. Original paint 2014 Ram 1500 R/T 5.7 Hemi...!
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
[Re: imfixinmopars426]
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11/12/09 02:34 PM
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1982,i was cruising in the 69 gts to the left,383,big cam 850,headers,and 4.56's...i keep seeing a black 340 dart pacing me from behind,through town. i thought to myself,i have him covered big time,so why not? finally we line up on the last light leaving town...now mind you,my dad has the biggest insurance agency in town,and is the bailbondsman,and he told me"dont EVER call me to get bailed out"...so usually i was careful,but...well you know,no punk in a 340,can get away with,that look,that smirk.so we rev'd,and i like to leave strong,so we do,and through my first,we are side by side,i powershift into 2nd at 6500,and pull on him HARD.as my eyes drift away from the tach,i look to the left,then hard to the left!....i failed to see the white,and black chevy suburban sitting at he light we just passed....opps,local sheriff dept! i let the dart pass me,and slide behind him,and like right now,the cops are pushing me to the curb,HARD! they cut me off,and blocked me,like they just busted the mob or something,and the passenger gets out,screaming at me,long story,short,RECKLESS DRIVING! so i tell dad,and all he says is fight it,it wont cost any more,so i did,and see the dart kid there to testify against me.after a hour,the clerk comes to tell me,the cop didnt show,and charges are dropped,and all dad did is smile...thanks dad! miss him bad,lost him in 1988 somehow i cant get the attach pic to come up,after i resize
Mike none of us want to see the picture of you in short shorts blown up any larger. Good story though..
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
[Re: hemicop]
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I always had a hard time writing guys for streetracing---kinda hard to do when you've done it yourself. . The few I did write I always got a conviction and they got the maximum penalty (8pts/ $1000 fine) as it was an aggravated situation and the Prosecutor was smart enough to bring up my racing experience to substantiate I knew just WHAT a race was. One time 2 guys had the same Court date & one goes in to testify on behalf of the other. The first claimed his car couldn't even do the 100mph+ the report said. When presented with photos of the car the Judge didn't buy it & convicted him. The second guy goes to Court & pleads with the Prosecutor to let him go with the same penalty as the first guy,as he was looking at a license revocation. The Prosecutor asked me what I thought. Since he was doing the same thing, I thought it was only fair he got the same punishment. The Prosecutor & Judge bought into it, & like the first guy, it cost him 1k & 8pts--somehow the Judge ignored the potential revocation. The funny thing was both guys could've avoided the whole problem except when I had stopped the first guy & said "Nice street race!", figuring I'd give him a warning, he said " F#$k You! Prove it!"...I did....
The last sentence was great, funny
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
[Re: imfixinmopars426]
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11/12/09 02:40 PM
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1982,i was cruising in the 69 gts to the left,383,big cam 850,headers,and 4.56's...i keep seeing a black 340 dart pacing me from behind,through town. i thought to myself,i have him covered big time,so why not? finally we line up on the last light leaving town...now mind you,my dad has the biggest insurance agency in town,and is the bailbondsman,and he told me"dont EVER call me to get bailed out"...so usually i was careful,but...well you know,no punk in a 340,can get away with,that look,that smirk.so we rev'd,and i like to leave strong,so we do,and through my first,we are side by side,i powershift into 2nd at 6500,and pull on him HARD.as my eyes drift away from the tach,i look to the left,then hard to the left!....i failed to see the white,and black chevy suburban sitting at he light we just passed....opps,local sheriff dept! i let the dart pass me,and slide behind him,and like right now,the cops are pushing me to the curb,HARD! they cut me off,and blocked me,like they just busted the mob or something,and the passenger gets out,screaming at me,long story,short,RECKLESS DRIVING! so i tell dad,and all he says is fight it,it wont cost any more,so i did,and see the dart kid there to testify against me.after a hour,the clerk comes to tell me,the cop didnt show,and charges are dropped,and all dad did is smile...thanks dad! miss him bad,lost him in 1988 somehow i cant get the attach pic to come up,after i resize
It won't show up with the text because it is a bmp type of picture. You might want to change it to a jpg. jpg pictures also take up LOTS LESS space on your computer.
Tom
"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."
-Henry David Thoreau
Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
[Re: hemicop]
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11/12/09 05:12 PM
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In 66 I bought a Belvedere II with a streeet hemi, and I lived in So Cal. Down beside Orange County Raceway there were several 2-lane country roads lined with big orange groves. These roads were great for street racing and doing test & tunes... I went down to Sand Canyon road on a thursday nite to dial my carburators in.. I opened my headers and was doing some kleen-out runs up/down Sand Canyon. Note at that time in Orange County it was all wide open country and no traffic, just occasional traffic to one of the ranches. I had just done a run and was cruisin back to recork the exhaust, and sitting in a driveway was a highway patrol car saw the big star reflecting on the door. As I went by he pulled out and hit me with his red lites.. He asked what I was doing and I told I was just working on the carburators. He smiled and said he knew I wasn't racing because there were no other cars around. No ticket, and he said he was just getting off for dinner so we went to a pizza joint in Tustin. Turned out he was also a drag racer, and loved to talk performance cars especially Mopars.. Those were the good ole days.. Just my $0.01...
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
[Re: hemicop]
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11/12/09 08:31 PM
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I really enjoy stories from the old days---anyone have a story of meeting the cop they outran later on & his "take" on it all?
Here's a story which sorta fits your question. My best friend's dad seemed to know just about every cop that drove an unmarked car and had one particular cop friend that was always fixing my friends tickets, and he got a lot of them. One night we were driving down Arlington Ave. ( over the speed limit of course) when all of a sudden we saw the red flashing lights coming up on us very quickly. My buddy took a very fast right hand turn at the next street and looking back at the intersection was this cop with the brakes locked up sliding sidewards trying to make the turn right behind us. My buddy yells out "that's Plasca." I asked "whose Plasca" and my buddy replies "the cop that always fixes my tickets. Now the chase was on and we were absoultely stupid as we began pulling away from him. We were driving down very narrow streets, with cars parked on one side, no lights on and pedal to the metal. We crossed a very busy intersecting street but we never saw it, we could have been killed or killed someone else. The chase lasted for probably 10 minutes and we finally lost him. I'm sure Plasca knew who he was chasing but never said anything to my buddy's dad.
I never tried to outrun the police as I knew from my first traffic ticket incident that my mom would be driving my car again and I'd be back on a bicycle, way too embarrasing.
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
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11/21/09 07:10 PM
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Street racing was and still alive in NYC,as well as Detroit and other states across the States'. The only difference between racers today and the "pro's" back then, when I was younger is that most guys knew the cars capabilities on and off the track. And cars then, were 90% pure muscle, with nary a power adder other than supercharger. AS time went on it was the drivers who were dependent on "their own power adders", and that's when things got out of hand and dangerous. The "pro's" were there to do business, while the foolhardy were there for the idea of running each other with no safety or respect of the sport (automotive craftsmanship). By the way, does anyone know what the outcome of a race in NYC, on the Nassau Expressway in Queens. Back in 71', I think. A Rat-Motored 68 Camaro squared off there with a 69 Road Runner w/HEMI. BIG MONEY was passed around that night. I believe the guy driving the Bird', is still a legendary driver with the last name of Cook. If anyone knows the true scenario, set the record straight please.
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
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11/21/09 11:26 PM
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Your memory obviously was not "emptied". The car in question, was not too hard to notice, when you saw it run. It was "at times" campaigned on the street as well as the track. You would have to be away from the crowd to see it in action.
"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids" "Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
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11/22/09 04:47 AM
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Let me add this ..... LOTS of cars came into the Detroit area ... from Chicago, Cleveland, NY and even Dallas. LOTS of these cars were nothing more than "plated" race cars and they were MANY TIMES way faster than the cars then the cars that they planned on racing. But THEN there was the "cruise" ... out to Woodward, then maybe out to Telegraph in stop-and-go traffic ... then out on 96/696 for a bit. I even saw one "parade" almost to Lansing .....60 or so miles ! This "test" of whether the challenger's car was a TRUE street-car was almost as interesting as the race itself !
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
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11/22/09 01:49 PM
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You got that right about the "plated" race cars back then. Which in all, was a lot safer than the hyped-up street rides with NO safety gear in them. As I said before, the "pro's" know their cars, on and off the track. They set up quickly, got the run on quickly, and got off the street quickly while being SAFE AT ALL TIMES. They never tried to draw large crowds which would hinder the SAFETY FACTOR. That's what drew the police to the area.
"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids" "Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
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Re: Street Racing in the 60's & 70's - Tell them your s
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11/22/09 09:04 PM
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That was a heck of a race with a lot of loot. Both cars were running, you figure 11 sec. flat or better. Great run!. Actually, in my previous post I mentioned about the 69' Runner and the 68' Camaro at Nassau Exp. in Queens. I misinformed the posting and will correctly recall the event at RT 440 (West Shore Expwy)in S.I., and it was a 68' Rat-Motored Nova squaring off against the 68' GTX, driven by Cook. Since these guys are "veteran drivers", the race was pretty big. The other race was HUGE, but this one was for the "bragging rights" also. Who won and by how much cause I missed this one. The Dart and the Camaro was at Nassau Exp.
"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids" "Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
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