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Re: 700 HP small block
[Re: emarine01]
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10/08/09 12:33 PM
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Brian Hafliger
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Any 59* 700 hp combos around, whats it take to do? Is there a point of no return on the 59* block?
Both W2Stroker and DiegoTed have near 700HP engines we built a couple of years ago.
Ted's made 678 and Martin's made 685.
4" cranks, 59° R blocks, 13:1, roller cams, one had Indy cnc -2 heads the other my ported Batten W2 heads, Indy intakes and 1050 dominators.
No special ring stack, no vacume pumps or other trick parts. Both used an 1 7/8 header.
The cams were NOS cams, so there was a little HP left on the table but probably only 20Hp maybe?
Both engines were built with RELIABILITY in mind and not pushed hard to make HP.
Brian Hafliger
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Re: 700 HP small block
[Re: emarine01]
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10/08/09 12:36 PM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think Johnny Pennington's small block fits what you described. He's from Lexington, SC. Blue with purple stripes Dodge Dart running 9.60s. CHIP
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: 700 HP small block
[Re: emarine01]
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10/08/09 01:25 PM
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ggddemon
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Any 59* 700 hp combos around, whats it take to do? Is there a point of no return on the 59* block?
I have a 2880lb./ 59*/ r-3 /w-9 glide  setup this year, worked o.k...did a best of 6.04@113 in the 660'and 1 run in the 1320 was 9.64@138- old setup was a eddy top end that did 6.26@109 in the 660'
Dave
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Re: 700 HP small block
[Re: ggddemon]
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10/08/09 01:47 PM
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Personally, i dont see a 59 degree head(except the latest and best indy head)making an honest 700 ponies, based on the old "riders dyno" benchmark.
I know w5's wont do it, w2 wont, the b1ba and eddies wont, so that leaves some sort of 245 indy head as the only way of getting there
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: 700 HP small block
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10/08/09 02:42 PM
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Brian Hafliger
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Personally, i dont see a 59 degree head(except the latest and best indy head)making an honest 700 ponies, based on the old "riders dyno" benchmark.
I know w5's wont do it, w2 wont, the b1ba and eddies wont, so that leaves some sort of 245 indy head as the only way of getting there
I believe our dyno to be "accurate". My engine made 560HP and runs 10.50's in 2500d.a. air in my 3320lb. duster with me in it.
MPH is usually 125-126.
To me, that's pretty accurate "comparing" other engines I dyno vs. customers cars.
Most combo's that don't "perform" as they dyno suggests are most likely lacking in the chassis and 60ft. over the dyno.
My car has gone 1.37-1.3960ft. Usual is 1.41.
I'm sure that when our dyno reads close to 700HP, it's accurate. I can't speak for anyone else's dyno but knowing what your dyno #'s read vs. in car performance vs. the chassis combo is KEY to getting the car to do whatever the customer wants it to do.
Indy heads flow well, and I find it hard to believe that you think 700HP is unattainable by them in all but the biggest port they offer!
But your allowed to "think" whatever you want... 
Brian Hafliger
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Re: 700 HP small block
[Re: Brian Hafliger]
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10/08/09 03:07 PM
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Mcallen, TX
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don,t really like indy stuff, but the heads are ready avalible,not really sure about the INDY RP. you will have to talk to ryan, the 449 ryan built me was well over the 700hp.just make sure you don't deal direct with them,service is not a favor, they just think that way, IMHO. If my memory serves correctly ,my engine was suppose to be built at the beginning with a set of w9 ab's, with lots of CSA, and we were going to be using a tall deck 48* r3 with a max bore,but heyy!!! those blocks are pigs...  that stoped me from going that route, then i scored a nice brand new in the box x block,and we went from there, Ryan built me this complete top set up from ICH....not bad for a true 59* block at 770hp and 615 torque. gilberto 
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Re: 700 HP small block
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10/08/09 03:36 PM
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Mcallen, TX
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speculate this...  Will be 449 cubic inches, Should make around 730-740 HP @ 7200 RPM, 610-620 TQ @ 5100 RPM @ 2700 lbs 8.90 @ 152 @ 2600 lbs 8.80 @ 154 @ 2500 lbs 8.70 @ 156
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Re: 700 HP small block
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10/08/09 03:58 PM
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A friend went 9.0's at 2450 in a 70 cuda just on gas with little b1ba heads. We figured at that weight he was about 620 real horsepower. So you were about 150 pounds heavier than he was.
Please, let's only talk about first hand experience here, not a friend of a friend blah, blah, blah. You know all racers are liars he probaby weighs 2200lb!!lol And we are supposed to believe someone who list there car as having "bicycle tires" does that is some weird way make you feel good?? 
fyi, my car actually weighed 2650+ lbs, had a huge frontal area and burned up high gear clutches when it ran those #'s. Ask Laverne, he saw the trans first hand. things the Moroso calculator can not figure in...
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But your allowed to "think" whatever you want...
Amen to that!
I think ou812 has a clue
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Re: 700 HP small block
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10/08/09 04:59 PM
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Finland
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My old motor had really radical batten w2`s(340cfm)on a x-block 4,10x3,42,dual dominators and dry sump(no vacum pump)
Best et was 9,39@143 in a 2900 pound Valiant on dot tires
-65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2
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